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Homosexual Relationships Are Wrong

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
open_mind said:
oh sorry i'll open my mind,here u go
-My work place is about 50 miles away from my home,may be i should go jogging next time,how on earth aren't cars a necessity?!

Until the last 100 years or so the human race survived just fine without cars, so I wouldn't say they are a necessity, just a luxury and convenience which we've convinced ourselves that we need to survive.
 

open_mind

Member
Revasser said:
It is certainly not out of your control. You could wear a mask when you go out and cut down the likelihood or infection, or even better, not go out at all and have no contact with anyone! You could also make sure you eat only food and drink water you have sterilised yourself to avoid stomach bugs.
do u want to tell that catching diseases are contollable,that means u have never got ill.plz understand me,i am trying to tell the difference between destiny and intentional acts
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
open_mind said:
oh sorry i'll open my mind,here u go
-My work place is about 50 miles away from my home,may be i should go jogging next time,how on earth aren't cars a necessity?!

I'm sorry...but didn't the human race survive without cars for...say...hundreds of thousands of years? Or perhaps archeological evidence of cars throughout time has been covered up by the environmental agencies? :areyoucra
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
open_mind said:
do u want to tell that catching diseases are contollable,that means u have never got ill.plz understand me,i am trying to tell the difference between destiny and intentional acts

So getting HIV/Aids is an intentional act? People intentionally get AIDS so that they can die a horrible, agonizing death? Okie Dokie there Dr. Death.
 

Revasser

Terrible Dancer
open_mind said:
do u want to tell that catching diseases are contollable,that means u have never got ill.plz understand me,i am trying to tell the difference between destiny and intentional acts
Getting sick is "destinty" now? Please. Live in sterile seclusion, and your chances of getting sick are drastically reduced.

If you're out and about interacting with other people, you are accepting the risk that you may become ill.
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
Draka said:
So getting HIV/Aids is an intentional act? People intentionally get AIDS so that they can die a horrible, agonizing death? Okie Dokie there Dr. Death.
People in Florida are dying after being bitten by a mosquito, so it must be a sin to go out at dusk and dawn, for God is punishing us for doing so?
 

open_mind

Member
Draka said:
1. not a joke...you really did defeat your own point no matter how you want to deny or cover it up.
2. I got it...you did not. There are fatal diseases out there you have no control over getting. Cancer being one....and no matter what precautions you take...HIV is still one that you can get whether you have sex with the same gender or no sex at all.

And what the crap is that bit about bugs and stomach blown away? Just something to throw people completely off the fact that you are uninformed of what you speak and trying to make me look stupid...well...it backfired big time.

oh no i am not trying to make u look stupid,plz don't take it personally;) ,
i was just trying to explain the difference between catching a disease naturally and doing something that leads u to fatal illness.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Open Mind, please clarify something for me: What are we debating here? Are we debating this mangled, premise skipping, abortion of an argument:


open_mind said:
I've just seen your post now,and here's my VERY SIMPLE answer to the easiest question of all:

I gave u evidence that homosexuality is scientifically harmful and even fatal,thats enough to be against God's creation for human nature based on primitiveness

GOD FORBIDS ANYTHING THAT HARMS HUMAN BEINGS
i gave u evidence that homosexuality is scientifically harmful,and thats why God forbids it and thats why its against human nature created by God...
i can't be much clearer!
and believe me,i've just given a brief of the real effects of HS.

Or are we debating this, so far, unsupported claim:

Open Mind said:
note:i used the word turned because no man is born homosexual,as it is something against human nature created by GOD.

I know you're trying to get at something here. I know you're trying to give birth to a logical argument. I can just sense it. But, frankly, your labor doesn't seem to be going too well at this point. There seems some risk your argument is going to be stillborn. At anyrate, please clarify for me which formulation of your half-born argument we're debating.
 

open_mind

Member
Revasser said:
Getting sick is "destinty" now? Please. Live in sterile seclusion, and your chances of getting sick are drastically reduced.

If you're out and about interacting with other people, you are accepting the risk that you may become ill.

OK buts its a necessity to go out!
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
open_mind said:
oh no i am not trying to make u look stupid,plz don't take it personally;) ,
i was just trying to explain the difference between catching a disease naturally and doing something that leads u to fatal illness.

And as Enhanced Spirit just pointed out that must include going outside at dusk and dawn. Right? What about all the things you do that can cause cancer? Just breathing the air in Los Angeles could cause lung cancer...do you just stop breathing then?
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
open_mind said:
excuse me all

HS=HOMESEXUALITY
sorry :eek:

i think you missed the point I was trying to make: when it comes to contracting diseases what is the difference between homosexuality and heterosexuality? Even if one has a higher rate than the other that doesn't conclude that the one with the higher rate is inherently wrong or evil.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
open_mind said:
OK buts its a necessity to go out!

No, it isn't...live in a plastic bubble. :D

Aren't you learning yet you really have no valid arguments for your statements yet? You have made several that you have failed miserably at being able to support.
 

open_mind

Member
Maize said:
So by that logic(?) then gays and lesbians who do not have fatal out of control diseases and are therefore not harmed by having sex or loving someone of the same gender, aren't doing anything wrong!

But if we use this same logic(?), straight people who engage in sexual activity with members of the opposite sex and contract fatal out of control diseases prove that God forbids heterosexuality because they are harmed. Brilliant!

some homosexuals are fatally harmed,some are not...due to the harm caused by some...its forbidden for all,thats what i mean.
why is drink driving a crime when some drunk drivers can control their cars?simply because others cannot
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Draka said:
And as Enhanced Spirit just pointed out that must include going outside at dusk and dawn. Right? What about all the things you do that can cause cancer? Just breathing the air in Los Angeles could cause lung cancer...do you just stop breathing then?
Hey, I live in L.A...........CRAP. Guess I'll have to stop breathing. But not breathing has nasty side effects. Like death :)
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
open_mind said:
some homosexuals are fatally harmed,some are not...due to the harm caused by some...its forbidden for all,thats what i mean.
Some heterosexuals are fatally harmed by having sex, some are not... due to the harm caused by some... why is heterosexuality not forbidden to all... if we're using your logic, that is?
 

Revasser

Terrible Dancer
open_mind said:
some homosexuals are fatally harmed,some are not...due to the harm caused by some...its forbidden for all,thats what i mean.
why is drink driving a crime when some drunk drivers can control their cars?simply because others cannot

Okay. Some people use Christianity as an excuse to harm others. Some, who flaggelate themselves, even use it as a reason to harm themselves.

Christianity, then, should be forbidden, should it not?
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Revasser said:
Okay. Some people use Christianity as an excuse to harm others. Some, who flaggelate themselves, even use it as a reason to harm themselves.

Christianity, then, should be forbidden, should it not?
Now there's some irony. ;)
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Mister_T said:
Hey, I live in L.A...........CRAP. Guess I'll have to stop breathing. But not breathing has nasty side effects. Like death :)

Damned if you do, damned if you don't, Hey? :biglaugh: But you do at least get my point right? L.A. being just an example of a high air pollution area, nothing personal to you Mister_T...I certainly don't want you to stop breathing anytime soon;) :D .
 
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