Homosexuality and religion

[Camatose]

Religion is more complex then that. There can exist many different interpretations of a verse, which this illustrates. Even if a minority interpret the verses in a non-homophobic way, its still a valid interpretation.

"The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed." Joseph Goebbels.
Nothing complex like the universe and religions are just confusion for your basic mind because I'm sure you have heard about this: if you can't convince them confuse them.Harry S. Truman.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

While it is true that earlier translations of the bible hold no mention of homosexuals, the fact that the modern translations do is enough to bother me. And whether it is in the bible or not, a majority of Christians I know are outspoken against homosexuality. When I ask them the reason they are so hateful I always get the same response: "I don't hate them, God does". Pretty much my point is that whether or not it was an original part of the Bible, a large number of Christians today believe condemnation of homosexuality is the law of God, and that probably won't change for quite some time.

 

[Camatose]

While it is true that earlier translations of the bible hold no mention of homosexuals, the fact that the modern translations do is enough to bother me. And whether it is in the bible or not, a majority of Christians I know are outspoken against homosexuality. When I ask them the reason they are so hateful I always get the same response: "I don't hate them, God does". Pretty much my point is that whether or not it was an original part of the Bible, a large number of Christians today believe condemnation of homosexuality is the law of God, and that probably won't change for quite some time.

I don't know why they're convering the truth, this is just an exaggeration if homosexuality is not mentioned in the bible then this bible incomplete ! I don't think so especially that the bible mentioned so many different social problems. I don't know if anybody here believes God forget about homosexuals.

 

[Kerr]

"The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed." Joseph Goebbels.
Nothing complex like the universe and religions are just confusion for your basic mind because I'm sure you have heard about this: if you can't convince them confuse them.Harry S. Truman.

Do not understand your post, sorry. Can you put this in words my primitive and basic autistic mind can grasp? Please be careful not to use big words, that might confuse me further.

 

[Kerr]

So long as that interpretation is based in solid exegesis and criticism of the texts in question.

You are correct, of course.

 

[Kerr]

While it is true that earlier translations of the bible hold no mention of homosexuals, the fact that the modern translations do is enough to bother me. And whether it is in the bible or not, a majority of Christians I know are outspoken against homosexuality. When I ask them the reason they are so hateful I always get the same response: "I don't hate them, God does". Pretty much my point is that whether or not it was an original part of the Bible, a large number of Christians today believe condemnation of homosexuality is the law of God, and that probably won't change for quite some time.

Perhaps we should acknowledge that Christianity isnt a homogenous religion? That while there definately are homophobic interpretations, there are also others that arent homophobic?

 

[Camatose]

The majority of Christians are opposite to homosexuality lifestyle if you want. While there are some Christians and even Churches have no problem with homosexuality. Possibly some of them define it biblically some don't, but biblically homosexuality wrong it's very obvious to me.

 

[sojourner]

The majority of Christians are opposite to homosexuality lifestyle if you want. While there are some Christians and even Churches have no problem with homosexuality. Possibly some of them define it biblically some don't, but biblically homosexuality wrong it's very obvious to me.

Since the ancients had no concept of homosexual orientation, there can, by definition, be no biblical injunction against it.

 

[Kerr]

The majority of Christians are opposite to homosexuality lifestyle if you want. While there are some Christians and even Churches have no problem with homosexuality. Possibly some of them define it biblically some don't, but biblically homosexuality wrong it's very obvious to me.

But its not about whats obvious to you, its about whats obvious to the Christians.

 

[Camatose]

Since the ancients had no concept of homosexual orientation, there can, by definition, be no biblical injunction against it.

Well, then let homosexuals marry in the Church. Also, accept homosexuals priests.

 

[Camatose]

But its not about whats obvious to you, its about whats obvious to the Christians.

It's obvious to me that most of Christians are opposite to homosexuality.

 

[sojourner]

Well, then let homosexuals marry in the Church. Also, accept homosexuals priests.

There are several places where those who identify as homosexual can marry. I'd be glad to officiate at such marriages, were it legal in my state. There are many members of the clergy who identify as homosexual. Bishop Gene Robinson is openly gay -- he's probably the most "famous" gay clergyperson. I personally know several clergy who identify as homosexual. They're great people and splendid ministers.

 

[sojourner]

It's obvious to me that most of Christians are opposite to homosexuality.

I wish more of them would embrace this:

Well, then let homosexuals marry in the Church. Also, accept homosexuals priests.

Thank you for saying so.

 

[Ingledsva]

The majority of Christians are opposite to homosexuality lifestyle if you want. While there are some Christians and even Churches have no problem with homosexuality. Possibly some of them define it biblically some don't, but biblically homosexuality wrong it's very obvious to me.

Actually Christians have been TAUGHT that homosexuality is wrong - and their ideas have rubbed off on others.

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[Camatose]

There are several places where those who identify as homosexual can marry. I'd be glad to officiate at such marriages, were it legal in my state. There are many members of the clergy who identify as homosexual. Bishop Gene Robinson is openly gay -- he's probably the most "famous" gay clergyperson. I personally know several clergy who identify as homosexual. They're great people and splendid ministers.

It's good to know that not all Christians are fanatical and closed minded people, and now I am very conceived about your acceptance for homosexuality. Thank you very much indeed.

 

[Camatose]

Actually Christians have been TAUGHT that homosexuality is wrong - and their ideas have rubbed off on others.

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Maybe!

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Well, then let homosexuals marry in the Church. Also, accept homosexuals priests.

Homosexual priests are accepted in the church, as evidenced by numerous transfers put in for child molesting priests rather than prosecution under the law. Or maybe they only care if you're attracted to adults of the same sex...

 

[Ingledsva]

Homosexual priests are accepted in the church, as evidenced by numerous transfers put in for child molesting priests rather than prosecution under the law. Or maybe they only care if you're attracted to adults of the same sex...

Homosexual priests and pastors are accepted in most churches, - however, - that does not in any way equate to child molestation.

The stats show that the majority of child molesters are heterosexual.

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[I.S.L.A.M617]

Homosexual priests and pastors are accepted in most churches, - however, - that does not in any way equate to child molestation.

The stats show that the majority of child molesters are heterosexual.

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Sarcasm... How it escapes the intellectual masses... Also, while the majority of child molesters in general may be heterosexual, the majority of people who were vocal about sexual abuse by priests were males. I'd call any male that sexually assaults another male a homosexual (again, nothing against gay people collectively, before you grab your torch and pitchfork)

 

[Ingledsva]

Sarcasm... How it escapes the intellectual masses... Also, while the majority of child molesters in general may be heterosexual, the majority of people who were vocal about sexual abuse by priests were males. I'd call any male that sexually assaults another male a homosexual (again, nothing against gay people collectively, before you grab your torch and pitchfork)

LOL! No pitchforks.

Actually the Centers for Disease Control and other groups have collected the stats.

It is overwhelmingly heterosexual men that rape both male and female children. Many of them the child's own father, stepfather, grandfather, etc.

Men seem to think they have sex rights over women and children.

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