Homosexuality is not a sin!

[angellous_evangellous]

I think that you finally got it, you cannot join a Christian Church and be an unrepeated practicing homosexual intent on continuing in your habits, it against Christianity tenets.You will be excommunicated.

If I were you, I'd keep these threats to myself.

They completely lack any credibility at all, especially considering the celebration of homosexuality in the Christian churches.

Dealing with homosexuality in a constructive way would go a long way in stopping the exploitation of children and the usage of male prostitutes and marital infedelity in the Christian clergy, from all denomenations. Not to mention the constant nursing of less public sins by the barbarous hypocrites who practice "excommunication." It's laughable that evangelicals even mention the word, tragic if it occurs, and utterly conceived in scandal.

 

[Alceste]

If I were you, I'd keep these threats to myself.

They completely lack any credibility at all, especially considering the celebration of homosexuality in the Christian churches.

Dealing with homosexuality in a constructive way would go a long way in stopping the exploitation of children and the usage of male prostitutes and marital infedelity in the Christian clergy, from all denomenations. Not to mention the constant nursing of less public sins by the barbarous hypocrites who practice "excommunication." It's laughable that evangelicals even mention the word, tragic if it occurs, and utterly conceived in scandal.

You're officially my daddy.

 

[JMorris]

excommunication, particularly coming from emiliano sounds like one of the greatest compliments a person can receive.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

You're officially my daddy.

:takeabow:

 

[Erebus]

Emiliano: waaay back in the middle of the conversation you said that you chose to be heterosexual. I have to ask you, would you mind teaching me how to choose my sexuality? The thing is I'm heterosexual, but I get hit on by guys as well as girls, so I'd like to re-think my decision to be heterosexual and would now like to be bisexual.

*looks at Johnny Depp*

Nope, still not attracted. Funny, you'd have thought that since I've now decided to be bisexual I'd find guys like him attractive.

My stance on homosexual marriage? It's not harming me in any way if homosexual people want to marry so why not?

As for the accuracy of the Bible... You realise of course that the holy scriptures composing the modern Bible were voted for? I believe it was Constantine who gathered various religious leaders and encouraged them to read through the scriptures and decide what would or would not go into the "official" Bible. Some of the missing elements include the Book of Enoch, the gospel of Judas and Lilith (Adam's first wife).
Just so you know, I have no problem with Christianity when it provides people with a community and encourages people to take care of one another. However, when it is used as an excuse to belittle and condemn others then in my opinion it becomes utterly redundant. In my eyes, Christians should be united in their love of their God (which I don't understand myself, but that's not for this thread) and of one another. I have a strong suspicion that with you, fear of Hell takes precedence over love of others and that, sir, is my honest opinion.

 

[Alceste]

The thing is I'm heterosexual, but I get hit on by guys as well as girls, so I'd like to re-think my decision to be heterosexual and would now like to be bisexual.

*looks at Johnny Depp*

Nope, still not attracted.

What!!?? Did you try watching Chocolat? And you're not attracted?

There's definitely something wrong with you. That's just unnatural.

 

[Erebus]

Haha!

Yet another reason Bisexuality would be ideal!

 

[JMorris]

Emiliano: waaay back in the middle of the conversation you said that you chose to be heterosexual. I have to ask you, would you mind teaching me how to choose my sexuality? The thing is I'm heterosexual, but I get hit on by guys as well as girls, so I'd like to re-think my decision to be heterosexual and would now like to be bisexual.

*looks at Johnny Depp*

Nope, still not attracted. Funny, you'd have thought that since I've now decided to be bisexual I'd find guys like him attractive.

My stance on homosexual marriage? It's not harming me in any way if homosexual people want to marry so why not?

As for the accuracy of the Bible... You realise of course that the holy scriptures composing the modern Bible were voted for? I believe it was Constantine who gathered various religious leaders and encouraged them to read through the scriptures and decide what would or would not go into the "official" Bible. Some of the missing elements include the Book of Enoch, the gospel of Judas and Lilith (Adam's first wife).
Just so you know, I have no problem with Christianity when it provides people with a community and encourages people to take care of one another. However, when it is used as an excuse to belittle and condemn others then in my opinion it becomes utterly redundant. In my eyes, Christians should be united in their love of their God (which I don't understand myself, but that's not for this thread) and of one another. I have a strong suspicion that with you, fear of Hell takes precedence over love of others and that, sir, is my honest opinion.

awwwwwww, the oft forgotten Lilith, the first ****** off ex-wife.:clap hmmmm, i wonder why a group of men wouldnt want that gospel in their bible? hmmmmmm

 

[Erebus]

Something to do with them not being able to accuse women of committing the original sin and suggesting that Eden was flawed from the start... oh and because Lilith left Adam for being a sh*t lay which doesn't do many favours to the father of humanity

I reckon they should incorporate her back into the Bible. After all if Genesis opened with Lilith and Adam complaining about their sex life you could turn it into a sitcom.

 

[linwood]

You're officially my daddy.

I told ya so.

 

[Nepenthe]

I believe it was Constantine who gathered various religious leaders and encouraged them to read through the scriptures and decide what would or would not go into the "official" Bible. Some of the missing elements include the Book of Enoch, the gospel of Judas and Lilith (Adam's first wife).

The Emperor's role at the Council of Nicea was a bit less influential than that. Constantine called the council together mainly due to the dispute over Arianism in the early church, the controversy over whether Jesus was a created being. The Arian party's document claiming Christ was "created" was destroyed at the meeting, but that's about it; no canonical definitions were established there whatsoever, and Constantine had little to nothing really to do with the specifics.
In 397, 60 years after Constantine's death, a Carthage council did gather and establish a canon.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Humans are set apart from animals in that they can reason and since we are discussing sin and this is a religious concept, to me as a religious person the reason that this behavior is not unacceptable in the Church is that God gave us the ability to reason for a purpose and communicated this humans

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None that I obstinately refused to repent for.

"Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity."

Solomon
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[spearman]

look folks the God of Christianity, or should I say my God and the God most Christians have does not permit homosexual activity. If you dont like it go get your own God make one up or start a new religion or find one that is compatible with your own morality. There are alot of things I use to like to do before I became a Christian but when I came to believe in Jesus I had to make a choice between the two. God did not hold a gun to my head and say love me or else I made the choice its the same with all sin and yes according to my God practicing homosexuality is a sin!! *edit*

 

[tumbleweed41]

look folks the God of Christianity, or should I say my God and the God most Christians have does not permit homosexual activity.

Has your god spoken this revelation to you? Or have you actually researched the reveled revelation of your god?

If you dont like it go get your own God make one up or start a new religion or find one that is compatible with your own morality.

I did not know Christianity advocated a plethora of gods to chose from.

There are alot of things I use to like to do before I became a Christian but when I came to believe in Jesus I had to make a choice between the two. God did not hold a gun to my head and say love me or else

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23 )
The wages of sin is death, hmmm, (Love me, accept me, or die)

I made the choice its the same with all sin and yes according to my God practicing homosexuality is a sin!!

Again, has your god spoken this revelation to you? Or have you actually researched the reveled revelation of your god?

so put that in your liberal athiestic God hater pipe and smoke it

Yes, I am liberal. No, I am not an atheist. No, I do not hate God.
(But I do enjoy a good pipe now and then)

Cant you feel the love?

 

[dawny0826]

Who is pushing them away? They been called to repentance and abstinence from sexual immorality often enough, that is all we can do, they choose to remind in their sins encourage by those that accept distortions of Christianity's tents. What we are call to do is to call sinners to repentance.

Mar 6:12
So they went out and preached that [people] should repent.
Luk 13:3
I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.
Luk 17:4

And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, 'I repent,' you shall forgive him." ​

Those of us who insist on shoving scripture down their throats.

 

[Quagmire]

look folks the God of Christianity, or should I say my God and the God most Christians have does not permit homosexual activity.

Doesn't look like your God has much pull then.

If you dont like it go get your own God make one up or start a new religion or find one that is compatible with your own morality.

Like you did?

There are alot of things I use to like to do before I became a Christian but when I came to believe in Jesus I had to make a choice between the two. God did not hold a gun to my head and say love me or else I made the choice its the same with all sin and yes according to my God practicing homosexuality is a sin!! *edit*

Wow! Not just a "sin", or even a"sin!" but a "sin!!".

Your God must care a lot about this issue.

 

[averageJOE]

God did not hold a gun to my head and say love me or else...

The Christian God has been saying this to us since the "begining" of our exsistance.

 

[emiliano]

One major reason that it's not considered a disorder is because the diagnosis was imprecise, and "treatments" were unsuccessful.

This seems to be a trend in today’s societies; first of all it is more profitable to perform mutilating surgeries in people to accommodate their sexual orientation than that it is to treat this thought disorders, second the discipline that treat mental disorder was not left out of the business because they have to go trough them to get surgery and then they need counseling to adapt, the materialistic desire won out at that time, this industry has been growing ever since to involve activists, lawyer are making a mint! What I don’t like is when religion wants to get into the business as well and sadly those that are doing it; do it for the same materialistic reasons, to increase the number of the paying public. But as far as I can see the purpose of the Church is to gather and guide the elect to Salvation and encouraging people to stay in their sins in not the way there. What do you think that the treatment attempted at the time were unsuccessful?

 

[emiliano]

Those of us who insist on shoving scripture down their throats.

That won't include me because I just don't want them in my Church unless they repent and change their behaviour, the problem here is that some gay people have been attracted to a Church with seductive new doctrines, but when they study the scriptures the find that they have been lie to and used, for example how are you going to explain to them this: “ but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.? And if you are honest one day you will have to come up with an honest answer you cannot be saved unless you repent and we just want your money. How are you going to explain to them that the almighty God that you preach to them cannot change those that repent and come to Him, that is God that must change His standards to accommodate them?

 

[emiliano]

hahaha

Now how many pastors or preists have been excommunicated for this?

A threat for excommunication for homosexuality is as hypocritical as it is silly and empty.

"You'd better watch out, or I'll hit you with my wet noodle!" haha

Well you do a research on that, but I can tell you that there are many, but I must admit that those excommunicated with expulsion (there are several types of excommunication) can always find a community that is willing to accommodate them. There are lots of churches that worship a feeble permissive little man that they call God the Almighty, they can go to your Church.