horrors of religion

[richardlowellt]

One, not fantasies, but curiosity. Two, it's been a long time since I've had such curiosity. Three, I perfectly accept that part of me as being part of me, and do not let it control my actions. Four, I release my killer instinct in video games like Doom or God of War. Five, I've had therapy before, and that had been a great help to me in coming to grips with what I am comprised of. Six, breathing meditation (admittedly not regular) has done wonders for keeping that side of me tamed.

Yep, video games, that makes it clear, you are a natural born killer. Releasing your killer instincts on a video game is certainly much different that real life, but it means, at least to you, that you do have pent up killer instincts, continue with your therapy.

 

[richardlowellt]

By knowing how I've acted in the past in other situations, and by learning how others like myself have reacted, it's not so hard to figure out how I would MOST LIKELY act.

I certainly hope you never have to find out exactly how you would react.

 

[richardlowellt]

Thief here...Horrors of Religion....sorry I came so late for this one.
I did a quick scan but did not see the real horror.

The horror is not here in this life.
Religion is a practice you perform as you are prepare for your last breath...and the judgment of the angels.

So you think you've seen scary things so far?
Let's take a one liner out of the Book...
"...and He rules with an iron rod."

Let's say it's true. Therefore....
Any hand outstretched will be struck down....and will never offend anyone...ever again.
If He does not like the way you come and go....one stroke to your spine and will not come and go as you did before.
And if He is displeased altogether...one stroke to your crown...and your willfulness will end...altogether.

Man uses wooden rods to convince the convict the error of his ways.
God strikes...not for correction... but end the offense...and one stroke is all it takes.

But that's religion for you. Most people readily quote the Book...but few people question..."what if the words I say are true?"

Most people nod their heads and follow anything....anything at all.
Read any parables lately?

I for one, am certainly thankful non of this is true otherwise it would be kind of scary, but went I grew up I leaned not to be afraid of fairy tales, as someone once said, and I wish it had been me, "I was religious until I reached the age of reason" By the way, this demon God you portray appears to be more evil than most of the other numerous Gods why not pick one a little more civil?

 

[richardlowellt]

Just following orders was the excuse the Nazis used that were put to trial in Nuremberg after the second world war.

And so they were, what is you point? that soldiers should not follow orders, should only fight in wars they approve of? make decisions on the field of battle as to wether to follows specific orders or not? what is your point?

 

[richardlowellt]

Yes, by the victors of course. However the list of atrocities was reduced to those that only the Nazis committed which narrowed the list down considerably, they couldn't include the atrocities that both sides committed because that would cause problems for the victors.

Now you are obligated to verify, with proper documentation,the atrocities committed by "the other side"

 

[richardlowellt]

I'm not trying to derail this thread, but...

The US has helped this country (Iraq) more than you probably know. We bring in so much money and jobs into this country that if there was ever a 100% withdrawl thousands of Iraqi families would no longer have any income. There are many, many private businesess that rely soley on American soldiers as their customers. Trust me, they are happy that we are here.

Only those who live and interact with those people truly know, like yourself, those who jump o the political band wagon, like some here on this site, only regurgitate what they have read in the press or have been told, "pay no attention to the man behind the rhetoric"

 

[richardlowellt]

It might have been a better idea to not bring up this argument at all.

Therefore I now request that this be the start and end of the discussion as to whether or not the Iraqi war was justified, either at first or later. That's for threads in Political Debates.

I agree

 

[richardlowellt]

We are robbing them and you are helping us make it happen.[/QUOTE]

Stupid statement, you apparently know nothing about what it means to be apart of the military, usually when people make statements about something they have no knowledge of they often appear ignorant, just as you are now doing.

 

[Riverwolf]

Yep, video games, that makes it clear, you are a natural born killer. Releasing your killer instincts on a video game is certainly much different that real life, but it means, at least to you, that you do have pent up killer instincts, continue with your therapy.

Pent up killer instincts? I release them in video games, while in real life, I don't even kill bugs. (Besides, in my first go at Sid Meier's Civilization IV, I tried to play everyone's friend... man did that make Ghengis Khan mad. lol) And FYI, my favorite video games are those that tell epic tales, not the ones that are bloodbaths. (Though those are fun, too... for about half an hour, then they get boring.)

And as I said, meditation (and, to get back on topic, *ahem* spirituality) has done wonders to help me accept that side of me, instead of fighting it and letting it build up like a soda being shaken up.

 

[Riverwolf]

I certainly hope you never have to find out exactly how you would react.

Thanks. So do I.

 

[Riverwolf]

I think I'm done with this thread. It's derailed from arguing about religion to arguing about war (and I admit I helped with that), and I don't think it can recover.

 

[Rayne]

I would pray rather than take myself to a hospital, and I'm atheist. Doctors are idiots; "House, M.D.'" exemplifies that (yes, I know it's fiction). We place FAR too much faith in the medical industry; but apart from that, the idea that one shouldn't "put the doctor before God" is as bad as putting oneself before God. If "God" isn't good enough to work through the doctor, then "God" isn't good enough to work through inaction.

I suspect this thread is a strawman.

Hey! House is awesome! Don't down House. :slap:

 

[Thief]

Thief here...Hey Rick...
The so-called demon God I showed you in post#552 is not my portrayal.

My post is an elaboration on a verse describing the Lord as one who rules with an iron rod.
The expression I displayed is an extension...as if to answer a presumed question...what if it's true?

 

[dogsgod]

As someone how has never been involved in combat, or fought because your country asked you to, this is exactly the kind of mentality I would expect.

I'm not fool enough to believe that our freedoms are gained by fighting wars on foreign soil. I'm not suckered in by that "we're the good guys" bull ****. But if my country was invaded by a foreign army that was here to secure our resources then I would fight in the resistance, just as the Iraqis do, and the Afghans, the Haitians, the Palestinians, and so on.

 

[richardlowellt]

I'm not fool enough to believe that our freedoms are gained by fighting wars on foreign soil. I'm not suckered in by that "we're the good guys" bull ****. But if my country was invaded by a foreign army that was here to secure our resources then I would fight in the resistance, just as the Iraqis do, and the Afghans, the Haitians, the Palestinians, and so on.

But your fool enough to be ignorant of why those troops are there, and I don't mean why politically. And your fool enough to call those putting their lives in danger every moment as NOT being brave. And you fool enough to be ignorant of the fact that your freedom was gained by fighting on foreign soil in both the Pacific and european theaters.

 

[dogsgod]

But your fool enough to be ignorant of why those troops are there, and I don't mean why politically. And your fool enough to call those putting their lives in danger every moment as NOT being brave. And you fool enough to be ignorant of the fact that your freedom was gained by fighting on foreign soil in both the Pacific and european theaters.

Hitler was using his armies to invade and occupy countries in Europe and Japan attacked the US for cutting off their oil supply, and those have zero to do with why the US is in Iraq other than the fact that the US, Britain, and Canada etc., are now the invaders and occupiers. Spare me the white hat bull ****, I know damn well what's going on.

 

[richardlowellt]

Hitler was using his armies to invade and occupy countries in Europe and Japan attacked the US for cutting off their oil supply, and those have zero to do with why the US is in Iraq other than the fact that the US, Britain, and Canada etc., are now the invaders and occupiers. Spare me the white hat bull ****, I know damn well what's going on.

The conversation was never about why the US is in Iraq. Try answering the points I put to you about why our troops are there, and how those being there are NOT brave. Also a little reading on World War 2 might be helpful to you.

 

[dogsgod]

The conversation was never about why the US is in Iraq. Try answering the points I put to you about why our troops are there, and how those being there are NOT brave. Also a little reading on World War 2 might be helpful to you.

WWII was a long tome ago and now we are the invaders and occupiers. We are there for our own self interests, or at least for the interest of western corporate elitists. The imperialist troops are in Iraq for the sole purpose of securing resources for western corporations and to secure their flow westward, also to secure and privatize municipal run facilities, and to impose our products.

 

[richardlowellt]

WWII was a long tome ago and now we are the invaders and occupiers. We are there for our own self interests, or at least for the interest of western corporate elitists. The imperialist troops are in Iraq for the sole purpose of securing resources for western corporations and to secure their flow westward, also to secure and privatize municipal run facilities, and to impose our products.

I can see your tactic for avoiding direct questions, or maybe I'm somehow hard to understand,if so I apologize. THE QUESTION WAS NEVER ABOUT WHY THE US IS IN IRAQ, although you seem to want to make it the main point, if so maybe the thing to do is to start your own thread on "imperialist Troop in Iraq"

Now concentrate-----The discussion is why troops are in Iraq, and we are NOT talking about why Politically, also why are those exposing themselves to death every moment NOT brave? Give it a try, I know you can do it!!

 

[Thief]

Thief here...another topic derailed.....