Routinely depending on modern medicine is not healthy. It is beneficial in a crisis and as soon as possible after the crisis one should start living in such a way as to avoid the illness in the future. Hippocrates ( considered the father of medicine ) said that all sickness is a result of breaking some natural law. Type 2 diabetes is usually related to diet excess. There have been studies that show that Type 1 diabetes is related to babies being on formula instead of mother's milk and of starting foods too early.
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horrors of religion
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tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Yet, science and medicine have advanced significantly since Hippocrates, we now can find genetic defects and markers for certain diseases. We know that viruses and bacteria can cause disease.
These are all factors of nature. No Natural Law is broken, yet the sickness occurs.
One cannot prevent oneself from catching measles, polio, small pox, etc. by living a certain way. It was only through medical advances that these diseases were eradicated.
On a side note, Hippocrates is credited with being the first physician to reject superstitions, legends and beliefs that credited supernatural or divine forces with causing illness.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Why would anyone put their faith in a God who is directly responsible for hundreds of mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse, not to mention the killing of unborn children?
When your child needs help, go to the doctor because this God will not help you.
When your child needs help, go to the doctor because this God will not help you.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
God is responsible for all that? Excuse me, I thought you were talking about atheist regimes for a minute there...or psychopathic dictators...or any other number of twisted, deviant humans.
MAN is responsible for any murder, rape, or trangression against another human being. Men and women will commit any number of atrocities in the name of God, or Islam, or communism, or love, or fairness, or (name your tune).
Just because someone evokes the name of a diety or cause or belief when they're committing a wrong against another human being, doesn't mean that they are accurately representing anything other than the darkness of their own heart.
Please, explain how this is all God's fault.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Your own book describes all of this clearly, here are but a few examples:
(1 Chronicles 21)
God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people
(Deuteronomy 3)
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value
(Joshua 6)
He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses
(Judges 21)
He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married.
(Exodus 21:1-11)
This God also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave , child abuse(Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9)
There are dozens of other atrocities besides these
(1 Chronicles 21)
God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people
(Deuteronomy 3)
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value
(Joshua 6)
He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses
(Judges 21)
He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married.
(Exodus 21:1-11)
This God also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave , child abuse(Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9)
There are dozens of other atrocities besides these
This isn't truly a horror of religion, but of a person who follows religion. I am a Christian, and yet I go to the doctor. People can always use excuses to do or not to do a certain thing. Religion is used very often as an excuse but so are a lot of other things.
Clearly you've never heard of Mahatma Gandhi.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Great article on the God of the Old Testament and genocide:
Did God order genocide in the Old Testament against the Canaanites? : Thinking Matters Talk
linwood
Well-Known Member
The idea that man has a fallen nature is pretty poisonous in itself.
That would be a religious concept wouldn`t it?
Apex
Somewhere Around Nothing
It does not take a religious inclination to believe that man has a tendency towards immoral behavior.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
I have to disagree that man tends toward the immoral. If this was so, man would have destroyed himself long ago.
Although man has a selfish ego, more often than not, the needs and desires of the society outweigh that ego.
linwood
Well-Known Member
True but I wasn`t speaking of mans immoral nature, I was speaking of "mans fallen nature".
The concept that mankind has "fallen" and is inherently immoral is a poisonous doctrine I believe.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Not all religions acknowledge a Hell . . . why does everyone assume that religion is a Christian thing? When the word 'bible' is used it is immediately assumed it is the Christian bible . . .
there are 'many' other bibles in the world.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Actually ignorance poisons everything.
dogsgod
Well-Known Member
If God exists, and is a loving God that cares about us, and is all powerful as long as we have faith in Him, then the father of the daughter drew these commonly shared beliefs to their ultimate conclusions and acted on them, with disastrous results. Unfortunately, almost everywhere he may have turned, these beliefs were re-enforced by those that share them.