The only thing I severely disagree with through all my years of practice, experience, and study in protestant and catholic denominations is Bahaullah from a christian perspective (which is the one that counts) has no place in Christianity other than being like there rest of the people, gentiles. The apostles went to different lands to convert people to christianity. I have to read Acts again. I read the NT before and no hint of a manefestation of god other than christ. Moses was considered a prophet just as all the other prophets in the bible. Christ was considered a High prophet. No other person held that tile but the Christ.
Being a Christian does not mean you accept the these things. JW are christian and there is a lot of things they disagree with with "christondom" christianity but I don't doubt they are christians because they too believe in the sacraments of christ no matter how much they and others want to deny it.
Christians believe in the sacraments of christ. They have faith in christ and no other person. Most christians will not identify as bahai or any other religion that conflicts with their belief in christ. Christianity is not eclectic.
No one is rejecting his return. It's not there. He was already here in the OT. Came as the word/message of god in the NT. Left to the father and came back in spirit to reassure his disciples of his return. Left to the father and everyone is waiting for judgement day.
This is christian belief. As a bahai, without believing in christ formal second upcoming return, either you're a blend of bahai and christian which is weird since christianity doesn't accept such a thing or you are not christian at all.
Bahaullah, just by location differences alone, has no place in Christianity. That's like calling Christians and Jews liars really.
That is in new testament scripture, Christ is the only way. Can't get around it if you say you're christian.
A lot of people have compassion, love, and so forth because they want to keep their traditions. It defines who they are as people. To take that away as if traditions divides them (when they don't see it that way) is awful.
I know you believe pepsi and coke are both sodas so they are one regardless the taste. The fact is they are not one because of the taste. Being both sodas does not make one the other. Being one humanity doesn't mean we share the same essence. We are all different at the core and at expressions. Can't separate the two. You are tearing people a part.
You are tearing me apart when you divine my expression (say traditions) with my spirituality (my passion). That division creates wars.
Religion is just traditions and practices that reflect and are embedded in beliefs of a given culture, people, and language.
The purpose of your faith is to unite in love. Others if you don't have christ there is no love. So, there is no love for me, if you're relating all religions under one definition. You haven't defined love so how is mine the same as yours? I don't know your love just you say you have it and want it for all people but haven't describe what it actually is that everyone can agree with you on.
That's your belief, though. If you claim christianity is part of your belief, you have to go by christian rules not your interpretation of them.
Now, this, you have to square away with the Jews if they want to contribute because to me it sounds completely impossible. It's not even open for opinion in this case, just plain out wrong.
This isn't christianity.
My point: outward/inward go together. That's your belief. You and a lot of new agers and universalists are the only ones who believe this. Most people get how traditions (regardless if they call it that) shape religion. JW can swear up and down they don't have traditions but if that's the case, how does their religion uphold for so many years without something written down and ways of doing X that pass from one generation to the next.
Nope. Name my god.
I don't know how to comment. I really dont.
Sounds like how christ presents himself if not the same.
This is Bahai belief. If you are christian, you are totally conflicting with your own faith. Totally.
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Yes. With Bahai, it's not like when I talk with Christians. I can see they feel they are right but then I also see they separate themselves from others. So in that respect, they have their own faith and I have mine. So if I talk with a nice christian, we understand we don't have the same truth because they don't have my truth, and I don't have christ.
Bahai is totally different especially when you said Bahaullah is god and Moses talked with him. That floored me.
Thank you. I don't think I'd understand Bahai now that you mentioned Moses and Bahaullah.
Well, it's almost easter. People come in tradition to celebrate Christ's resurrection. They did this for years and I find it odd to take this tradition away to bring about the new. But then, that's me. I don't have formal tradition but I value people who want to keep the old.
Just doesn't sit right to take people's traditions away and even more so tell christians and jews moses talked with a guy when Bahaullah identifies himself as Bahaullah and the god of jews and christians is I AM.
Love, compassion, and unity does not mean taking away someone's spirituality. That's horrible.
No one going to 'take' people's traditions away from them.
I discontinued worshipping statues of Mary, Christ and Joseph and stopped partaking in things like confession and communion because I found them to be against the teachings of Christ Himself and saw no need to continue observing practices set up by th clergy that God Himself never set up.
I discontinued them because I personally found them to be irr concilable with the Gospels but others may do as they please as that is their right.
I stopped observing these traditions voluntarily just as others may wish to continue voluntarily. No one is wrong here. The choice is the individual's to make.