CG Didymus
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Have you read the Hopi prophesies?
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How are these Great Beings explained?
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CG Didymus
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Is it alright to mix personal views with Baha'i views? Like what happened with the interpretation of the Book of Revelation.
CG Didymus
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How about early Christians? What did they believe? To use JW's as an example doesn't prove much. They are more recent than Baha'is.
'In time absence of any authoritative interpretation, the individual is free to draw his or her own conclusions about the meaning of the verses and prophecies. '
Biblical Verses, Interpretation of
The way I see it written is They reflected what God wanted us to know. They had a specific Message to give.
Regards Tony
Its between you and the Word given of Christ to determine what a True Christian is. I posted this to you some time ago;
“O SON OF SPIRIT! The best beloved of all things in My sight is Justice; turn not away therefrom if thou desirest Me, and neglect it not that I may confide in thee. By its aid thou shalt see with thine own eyes and not through the eyes of others, and shalt know of thine own knowledge and not through the knowledge of thy neighbor. Ponder this in thy heart; how it behooveth thee to be. Verily justice is My gift to thee and the sign of My loving-kindness. Set it then before thine eyes."
Regards Tony
I have seen them over the years, there is some very compatible information.
I view them with interest.
Regards Tony
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CG Didymus
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So why would Bible-believing Christians miss that? Especially when he supposedly said that if Christ isn't raised then Christians are still lost in there sins. And he goes on to say that Christ has been raised. So only in a Baha'i world you are correct. And maybe, someway and somehow, the Baha'is are right. Then that makes the writers of the gospels, whom were only fallible men, wrong. They were lying or mistaken about seeing and touching and talking to the resurrected Jesus.The apostle Paul didn't believe in the physical resurrection. Does he count?
But all four writers wrote as if the event really happened, but knew it didn't... And meant that the story be taken symbolically? I don't think so.
ajay0
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You can find more information about the Brahmakumari's from local RF Brahmakumari Tabu's threads in the 'Other Revealed Religions DIR'.
BrahmaKumari : A Picture is worth a Thousand Words
Here is an introductory thread on Shiva/Jehovah/Allah.
http://www.brahmakumaris.com/rajyoga-meditation/understanding-god/
CG Didymus
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And how is that different from the "man-made" traditions and interpretations of the other religions?
CG Didymus
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To qualify as manifestations, they have to be perfectly polished mirrors. By what we know about them from the Bible, they were not.
ajay0
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It came up in India so it technically comes under the culture of Hinduism, though it has a distinctive character of its own with monotheism.
It is the only spiritual organization in the world lead by female administrators, leaders and teachers, and displays a great example in this direction to other religions. This is a part of the distinctive character given to it by Shiva/Allah/Jehovah to empower women leaders who had been suppressed throughout the world due to their relative physical and economic weakness or even branded as witches upon display of psychic powers of intuition.
Shiva states that success will follow if men takes up the leadership of women. Statistically too, it has been proven that women leaders and administrators , the few that have come up, has a better track record than men leaders and administrators in their jurisdictions, as they have a better idea of the ground realities affecting the common people, rather than mere adherence to abstract ideologies.
Monotheism of a non-human element prevailed in India earlier and now as well through the Lingayats, Arya Samajis, Kabir Panthis, Sikhism and Brahmo Samaj.
So, it is not difficult to believe monotheism of a non-human element as presented by the Brahmakumaris.
CG Didymus
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Justice huh... Then I've got a good question for you. What is the just solution to the situation between Israel and Palestine? Who gets the country or do they share it?
My personal view is "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens".
As to boundaries, God has allowed man to rule this earth and set those, all to be based in Justice.
I will leave it to the decision made by our elected representitives. They seem to be debating it all at this time.
Regards Tony
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Sometimes its hard for us to have faith and believe, but Jesus said 'the truth shall set you free'. John 8:32
We've spent much time circling around the resurrection. Lets think again about myth, allegory and reality in religion. Consider the story of creation, of Adam and Eve, and then the flood in Noah's time. Remember we explored the first chapters in the book of genesis where these stories are told. These are not literal stories but allegorical. They have have profound spiritual meaning. The problem comes when we imagine they are literally true. Then we have a contradiction with known science and reason and we miss the point of the stories. So the intent of the author has not been to recount history but to convey a deeper spiritual message.
Why should it be any different with the resurrection? Unlike the stories in genesis where the origins of the stories are historically obscure, the origin of the resurrection story appears to be when the apostles started teaching a Greco-Roman audience about the Divinity of Christ, our relationship with God through Christ, and the nature of the soul. The language Paul uses in 1 Corinthians 15 and the difficulties as recorded in the gospels that the close companions of Christ have recognising Him and his sudden ability to move through hard objects are clues this is more than an historic account of actual events. Through the NT, we simply have a clearer idea about how myth and reality become interwoven, whereas with genesis we don't.
The purpose of the gospels was never to give a detailed historical account but to enable us to have faith (John 20:31). That is the intent of the gospel writers, not to mislead.
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I don’t know. Although even in the Bible in Corinthians mention is made of a spiritual body.
InvestigateTruth
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The Bible authors knew the majority of Christians will mistakenly take the meaning of Resurrection literally. They were speaking symbolically though.
They had a mission from God to test Christians.
It is identical with the Author of the Quran. He knew, when He says 'Seal of Prophets', the Muslims will mistakenly interpret it to mean, Finality of Revelation. His purpose was to test the Muslims. So, when Bahaullah who is the return of Christ came, the Christians would face a test. They expected Jesus Himself to come down from sky, not someone new, who was born in Persia. What a big big surprise indeed! What a test! Likewise, the Muslims, did not think that Day of Resurrection has come. They expect a Day of Resurrection when the dead people are raised to life, and Allah comes to meet them. They did not expect Bahaullah comes and says, it is the Day of Resurrection, and the spiritually dead people are raised through His new Revelation. What a big difference!
See what Bahaullah said:
"Know verily that the purpose underlying all these symbolic terms and abstruse allusions, which emanate from the Revealers of God’s holy Cause, hath been to test and prove the peoples of the world; that thereby the earth of the pure and illuminated hearts may be known from the perishable and barren soil. From time immemorial such hath been the way of God amidst His creatures, and to this testify the records of the sacred books."
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The Kitab-i-iqan contains the explanations on this matter.
Page 55 at this link explains the case of Moses - Bahá'í Reference Library - The Kitáb-i-Íqán, Pages 41-80
Regards Tony