How can a Jew reject Jesus as the Messiah?

[Ehav4Ever]

The New Testament keeps it simple. The name of Jesus is Yeshua not Yahshua.

Doesn't the NT actually say his name was Ἰησοῦς which would be pronounced Iēsous or like eezous? If I remember correctly the Aramaic speaking Christians pronounce his name like eeashoa or something - w/o the Ayin pronounced.

So, again how did all of this name business get started in Christianity? Shouldn't this have been a no brainer with no arguement?

 

[Saif El-far]

unfortunately, many believe Jesus Christ was baptized in Israel! Jesus Christ was baptized in Jordan River, in Jordan. maybe that's why !?

 

[Harel13]

unfortunately, many believe Jesus Christ was baptized in Israel! Jesus Christ was baptized in Jordan River, in Jordan. maybe that's why !?

The Jordan in those days was part of Israel. There was no country called Jordan.

 

[YoursTrue]

Jesus told his disciples that they would receive power from the Holy Spirit. Jesus talked about the Holy Spirit and was seen with the Holy Spirit at his baptism.

There's a clue. Power from God - holy spirit.

 

[YoursTrue]

The New Testament keeps it simple. The name of Jesus is Yeshua not Yahshua.

Actually the Bible was not originally written in English so translators are needed to help people understand.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yahweh was Jesus, since Jesus is the only part of the plurality of the Trinity who became a man.

Oh boy. So is the holy spirit a dove? A dove is God-bird?

 

[YoursTrue]

Jesus couldn't have died for the sins of the world if he was a finite person. God would not place Jesus over every other name because God doesn't share his glory with anyone.

Did we inherit sin and death from Adam? Was jesus father in heaven when he, Jesus, was on the earth? We can talk about glory later. Just see why we die.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

it makes sense that he would be born of a virgin to be decently and in order.

It doesn’t really. A God can be born with natural biology. Or do you have some manual on divine biology?

 

[Skywalker]

Did we inherit sin and death from Adam? Was jesus father in heaven when he, Jesus, was on the earth? We can talk about glory later. Just see why we die.

There's a good chance that we inherited sin and death from Adam, because Jesus is called the second Adam, and Jesus saves us from sin and death. I believe that father in heaven is a reference to Yahweh. Jesus is not a junior deity because he told the Samaritan woman that he was the Messiah and that means that he accepted worship.

 

[Skywalker]

Oh boy. So is the holy spirit a dove? A dove is God-bird?

The Holy Spirit manifested Himself in the form of a dove during the baptism of Christ.

 

[Skywalker]

Actually the Bible was not originally written in English so translators are needed to help people understand.

That doesn't mean that Yeshua is a more sacred name than Jesus.

 

[Skywalker]

There's a clue. Power from God - holy spirit.

Jesus was talking about the Holy Spirit being God, in those verses.

 

[RabbiO]

You keep citing to a website that is antisemitic. Why is that?

@Skywalker -

It would really help me to know whether you didn’t realize that the site is antisemitic or whether you are in agreement with its antisemitic sentiments.

 

[Redemptionsong]

Not according to the NT.

The Son of Man was due to establish the Kingdom on earth ─ unambiguously, in Mark, in Matthew and in Luke ─ during the lifetime of some of Jesus' hearers.

Unless you know one or more two-thousand-year-old people who were in the audience when Jesus spoke, that part of things has long been, and is, a FAIL.

As I understand the scriptures, the Son of Man was due to establish the Kingdom on earth, unambiguously, and it was THAT generation of Jacob (the nation) that rejected Jesus. So, when the Son of Man returns to establish the Kingdom on earth, it will be with the same generation. The time between the two appearances of Christ, the Church Age, is not counted in the 70 weeks of covenant between God and Israel. One more week of covenant has yet to be fulfilled.

 

[Skywalker]

@Skywalker -

It would really help me to know whether you didn’t realize that the site is antisemitic or whether you are in agreement with its antisemitic sentiments.

I don't agree with what the Jesus is Savior site says about Israel but I agree with them about topics like the New Covenant being mentioned in the Old Testament.

 

[Skywalker]

Doesn't the NT actually say his name was Ἰησοῦς which would be pronounced Iēsous or like eezous? If I remember correctly the Aramaic speaking Christians pronounce his name like eeashoa or something - w/o the Ayin pronounced.

So, again how did all of this name business get started in Christianity? Shouldn't this have been a no brainer with no arguement?

eezous is the Greek name of Jesus. There are different names for Jesus in Christianity for the same reason that there are different names for Jesus in Arabic. Some Arabs call Jesus Isa, others call him Yasu.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

There were no political systems like we have back then - any word they could possibly used would seem out of place to us.

There’s an entire book called Judges where Israel is led by something other than a monarchy.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Of course. He could have spontaneously appeared from nothing, if he wanted. Nothing requires him to be born of a virgin. I don't know what any of that has to do with things being done "decently and in order." If anything, being born in an unusual way is out of order, that's the whole point of it.

If he’s supposed to be the second Adam, Jesus should be made from dirt.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

How could the person who had such an impact on 2000 years of history have never existed? The sayings of Jesus have the ring of truth to most people. The birth of Jesus is why history is BC and AD.

Why would Star Wars use ABY and BBY (actually I’ve only seen fans using it) if the Battle of Yavin didn’t happen?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Jesus established a friendship with the apostles before he left his home. He was a member of the town of Nazareth, with clear origins, not someone who appeared out of nowhere.

Ash Ketchum is a member of Pallet Town, with just a mom, who hardly ever stayed home. Bonus: he has died at least twice that I know of.