sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Oh? Can you be more specific about those similarities?
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How Can we know that either Christianity or Islam is right?
- Thread starter Rainbow Mage
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kejos
Active Member
Put away the propaganda. We're not children here.
Orthodox theology is specially designed to that end.
How childish.
kejos
Active Member
I'll let you 'bone up'.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
You're the one making the claim. You're the one who needs to prove the claim.
kejos
Active Member
A suggestion.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Now you're evading. What, exactly are those similarities? We can't debate "suggestion."
Antifascist_Action
Member
They can't both be right, but they can certainly both be WRONG. In my opinion neither one is right.
kejos
Active Member
One of them is hardly credible; the other demands too much.
truthseeker123
Member
its very easy just read waht it says the bibles greatest command ment is love otghers as yourself ....n ow tell if we all did that how could we go wrong , the world would be a perfect place
kejos
Active Member
Very true- but men love the darkness, because their minds are greedy.
fatima_bintu_islam
Active Member
fatima_bintu_islam
Active Member
The prophet peace be upon him says ; one does not believe until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself
So the original question still stands
Thesavorofpan
Is not going to save you.
Well since the quran was written around 653 AD I find it hard to believe that Islam is the correct faith because it just looks like a mixture of Judaism and Christianity. Plus Allah doesn't really sound like a loving God to me. With him you have no idea if your saved or not so you'll be in consent fear of Am I going to Hell or not?
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
How about positing that Christianity and Islam are BOTH right, as Baha'is do?!
Best!
Bruce
Best!
Bruce
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
How about positing that Christianity and Islam are BOTH right, as Baha'is do?!
Best!
Bruce
Christianity and Islam are very opposed on many many doctrines, so either one or the other can actually be correct.
Orthodox Christianity puts forth God as existing in three states while Islam denies the idea of God having persons.
How can both be correct?
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
Bruce said:
Very simple:
1. Each religion was revealed for a specific Age, and each Age has its own unique circumstances and requirements--and hence differing laws and teachings. The central spiritual essence doesn't change.
2. It's possible to explain and resolve apparent differences in doctrine about such things as the crucifixion story, and the Baha'i scriptures indeed to this.
3. Some differences are due to man-made doctrines what aren't really part of the original relgion as revealed.
Peace,
Bruce
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Well that may be how a Baha'i would see it I grant you, and I suppose that's a valid explanation. I doubt Muslims and Christians would agree though.
I'll point out though that Christianity and Islam view one specific attribute of God very differently, and I don't think this difference can be harmonized. It really would have to be one or the other. Remember this is something about God's nature.
Christianity teaches that God has made man for himself and to have an intimate relationship with him, as in a personal one on one relationship. We're talking more then following a religion here.
Islam on the other hand teaches that man cannot know God that intimately because God is too far beyond man. That man can only know God through the message of the messengers.
Also Islam teaches as opposed to God making man for himself and desiring to know man that God does not need man. That God is free from needs.
How do you reconcile such a contrasting difference?
I'll point out though that Christianity and Islam view one specific attribute of God very differently, and I don't think this difference can be harmonized. It really would have to be one or the other. Remember this is something about God's nature.
Christianity teaches that God has made man for himself and to have an intimate relationship with him, as in a personal one on one relationship. We're talking more then following a religion here.
Islam on the other hand teaches that man cannot know God that intimately because God is too far beyond man. That man can only know God through the message of the messengers.
Also Islam teaches as opposed to God making man for himself and desiring to know man that God does not need man. That God is free from needs.
How do you reconcile such a contrasting difference?
Very simple:
1. Each religion was revealed for a specific Age, and each Age has its own unique circumstances and requirements--and hence differing laws and teachings. The central spiritual essence doesn't change.
2. It's possible to explain and resolve apparent differences in doctrine about such things as the crucifixion story, and the Baha'i scriptures indeed to this.
3. Some differences are due to man-made doctrines what aren't really part of the original relgion as revealed.
Peace,
Bruce
Your first point violates the tenets of both religions, so you're not really saying they're both right; you're saying that both are wrong in a fundamental way.
Rainbow Mage
Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Baha'is believe messengers can abrogate or change various elements of previous religions, so they may not see various contradicting elements of the two as a problem.