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How did Satan get to the garden of Eden?

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Faith is debunked by the mere use of the word.

By definition believing something on faith is believing something that you can not validate or know is true.

Nay.

Faith is holding to a concept for which there is no evidence.

There is true faith.
 

Oryonder

Active Member
Nay.

Faith is holding to a concept for which there is no evidence.

There is true faith.

This is exactly what I have said ya nit ??

Faith is debunked by the mere use of the word.

By definition believing something on faith is believing something that you can not validate or know is true.

How can you validate something for which there is no evidence ?
How can you know that something is true for which there is no evidence ?

I can tell you to have faith that some moon circling some planet is made of green cheese but this does not make it true.
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
Nay.

Faith is holding to a concept for which there is no evidence.

There is true faith.

well you're wrong.

because i believe in a concept that says you are.

see how that works?


wow.....



back to topic?
 
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outhouse

Atheistically
Unless you think you can debunk a matter of faith with it.

actually you can.

using faith, yellow unicorns walk around with purple bigfoots :facepalm:


through history we see your mythology plain as day. The light of history turns what you call unknown, with no evidence, into evidence. this evidence kills faith in known mythology.

all you have left is what science and history do not have complete answers for. And you still choose to refuse common knowledge due to mythology.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by sincerly
"Simple logic' is evil when it is from a mind that has as its motivation/purpose to contradict the "thus saith the Lord GOD".

those that flew into the WTC thought the very same thing.

GOD said, "thou shall not kill"/murder; and, "Love thy neighbor as yourself".
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
This is exactly what I have said ya nit ??



How can you validate something for which there is no evidence ?
How can you know that something is true for which there is no evidence ?

I can tell you to have faith that some moon circling some planet is made of green cheese but this does not make it true.

I think you're cross quoting.
Makes it difficult to sort through.

Truth is not an item of evidence.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you....is a true belief.
You believe you should do so....don't you?
It is self 'evident'.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
actually you can.

using faith, yellow unicorns walk around with purple bigfoots :facepalm:


through history we see your mythology plain as day. The light of history turns what you call unknown, with no evidence, into evidence. this evidence kills faith in known mythology.

all you have left is what science and history do not have complete answers for. And you still choose to refuse common knowledge due to mythology.

Poor comparisons.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
not from your context.

they are 100% accurate



faith means belief with ZERO evidence, and in the end, you have zero evidence.

I don't need evidence to be reasonable and responsible.
But I need to be reasonable and responsible to stand well before God.
 

Oryonder

Active Member
Originally Posted by sincerly
"Simple logic' is evil when it is from a mind that has as its motivation/purpose to contradict the "thus saith the Lord GOD".



GOD said, "thou shall not kill"/murder; and, "Love thy neighbor as yourself".

Actually it was Jesus who said "love thy neighbor as thyself"

God also said go out and kill women and children.

Either God contradicts himself or those who claim the Bible speaks for God are wrong.
 

Oryonder

Active Member
I think you're cross quoting.
Makes it difficult to sort through.

Truth is not an item of evidence.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you....is a true belief.
You believe you should do so....don't you?
It is self 'evident'.

Nothing so difficult that a 5th grader could not figure it out.

If your claim is that I am cross quoting (whatever that means) then state how I have done this.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Actually it was Jesus who said "love thy neighbor as thyself"

God also said go out and kill women and children.

Either God contradicts himself or those who claim the Bible speaks for God are wrong.

Can't speak for previous prophets....they aren't participating.
But if you survive your last breath....you can ask them.

And Jesus was not the author of the golden rule.
It was carved in stone at least a thousand years before Him.
 
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