How do Christians view Judaism?

[Terry Sampson]

The Bible is clear that Israel is responsible for Christ's death. She has been under the judgement of God since the Babylonian captivity. She will continue under that judgement until God lifts the blindness from her eyes and the end of the tribulation period.

Since the Babylonian captivity??? Till the end of the tribulation period??? For Christ's death??? Or do you have some other inane reason rolling around in your head? I challenge you to declare your denominational affiliation.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Since the Babylonian captivity??? Till the end of the tribulation period??? For Christ's death??? Or do you have some other inane reason rolling around in your head? I challenge you to declare your denominational affiliation.

Why? I am Christian.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Terry Sampson]

Why? I am Christian. Good-Ole-Rebel

Nah, ... you're a Texan, you can't be. A Southern Baptist, maybe ...

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The Bible is clear that Israel is responsible for Christ's death.

Well, then, I am just a tad confused.

If Israel is responsible for Christ's death, and Christ's death was required (by God) for salvation, where's your gratitude?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Well, then, I am just a tad confused.

If Israel is responsible for Christ's death, and Christ's death was required (by God) for salvation, where's your gratitude?

Yes, I see that. Understandable.

Israel was not trying to do God's work in killing Christ. They killed Him because they rejected Him. My gratitude is towards God and Christ. Not Israel who rejected both God and Christ.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[firedragon]

I agree that the diversity is indisputable.

Therefore, assuming the vast diversity in Christianity, no one can ask RFers how Christians view Judaism? That strikes me as an odd idea.
There is diversity among Jews and diversity among Muslims, too, albeit to a far lesser extent, some might say. Would it also be improper to ask, in RF, one of the following questions?

1. How do Jews view Christianity?
2. How do Muslims view Christianity?
3. How do Muslims view Judaism?
4. How do Jews view Islam?,
   
5. How do Baha'i view Judaism, Christianity, and Judaism?

Personally, IMO, only #5 is not a proper question, because nobody but Baha'i care what they think, they are crazy and don't carry weapons.

Yes. Diversity exists amongst Muslims, jews and hindus. Buddhists and others too.

But irrelevant to the op.

 

[Terry Sampson]

Yes. Diversity ... But irrelevant to the op.

Your initial objection was also irrelevant and that was my point.

 

[firedragon]

Your initial objection was also irrelevant and that was my point.

Brother. It was relevant as i explained in that same post.

Yet, i understand your post now.

 

[Milton Platt]

Not sure if this is in the right section...
Anyway, through various discussions and, at times, heated debates online with Christians on different sites these last couple of years, I've come under the impression that at least some Christians view Judaism as "Christianity minus Jesus". Certainly, I'm pretty sure this is a mindset that groups like the Hebrew Christians and Messianic Judaism have used to preach to and convert Jews.

Is this really how Christians view Judaism?

Note: This isn't about what role Christians think Jews serve in the world, but about the religion itself.

Historically, Christians blamed Jews for supposedly being complicit in the death of Jesus. I have always found that peculiar since they also believe his death is a necessary component of their salvation.

 

[PearlSeeker]

Not sure if this is in the right section...
Anyway, through various discussions and, at times, heated debates online with Christians on different sites these last couple of years, I've come under the impression that at least some Christians view Judaism as "Christianity minus Jesus". Certainly, I'm pretty sure this is a mindset that groups like the Hebrew Christians and Messianic Judaism have used to preach to and convert Jews.

Is this really how Christians view Judaism?

Note: This isn't about what role Christians think Jews serve in the world, but about the religion itself.

Jesus was a Jew (though marginal). I don't think he intended to found a separate religion. First Christianity was Christian (Messianic) Judaism. Then Paul founded a Gentile Christianity that didn't keep all Mosaic law. There was some tension between these two groups but they met in Jerusalem (the first council) and they settled. Later the Gentile Christianity become more massive and prominent and more and more separated from Judaism. Especially after becoming the religion of Roman empire...

So the very first version of Christians viewed themselves as Jews and other Jews the same religion (only not agreeing on Jesus as Messiah).The final version of Christianity views Jews as its originating/related religion but nevertheless a different religion.

 

[coconut theology]

So, Judaism today, how do you explain this (video, which shows a particular practice prevalent), according to the Torah, Nevi'im, or even Ketuvim?:

Where did this practice come from? Explain, using accepted sources by Judaism (today).

I was looking through the later replies and did not see any response to the questions therein. The questions were serious and I am looking for the evidence from official sources about the practices in the video.

 

[Harel13]

The final version of Christianity views Jews as its originating/related religion but nevertheless a different religion.

Well known. But does Judaism have a place in the world, according to Christianity?

 

[Harel13]

I was looking through the later replies and did not see any response to the questions therein. The questions were serious and I am looking for the evidence from official sources about the practices in the video.

You addressed it to @RabbiO as part of your discussion/debate with him, which is why I didn't answer, but I can, if you want.

 

[Jim]

But does Judaism have a place in the world, according to Christianity?

What do you mean by “according to Christianity”? That looks like a very different question to me, from asking for personal opinions from a tiny, self-selected sample of Christians in a forum where some of them are popular targets of campaigns of denunciation.

For answers to that question, I would be looking at the writings of Christians recognized as theologians by their institutions.

 

[Harel13]

What do you mean by “according to Christianity”? That looks like a very different question to me,

Is it? I didn't realize.

 

[pearl]

For someone to still blame a whole people for actions that took place almost 2000 years ago, such as the blaming of the entire Jewish people for Jesus' death, is stereotyping on steroids. How many lives have been lost with the Shoah and other forms of genocide over the centuries because of that kind of myopic and deadly bigotry.

Unfortunately much of the stereotyping stems from a simplistic reading of Scripture. We are so fortunate as Catholics to have excellent biblical scholars and a Church that listens and corrects.

 

[PearlSeeker]

Well known. But does Judaism have a place in the world, according to Christianity?

Of course it does. I appreciate Judaism. I believe that in the world to come there will be no more distinctions.

This is the official doctrine of the Catholic Church:

The Catholic Church recognizes a particular link with the Jewish people in the fact that God chose them before all others to receive his Word. To the Jewish people belong “the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, the promises, and the patriarchs; and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ” (Romans 9:4, 5). The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to the revelation of God in the Old Covenant.​

 

[pearl]

The Bible is clear that Israel is responsible for

It is not clear at all that the Jews, collectively, are responsible for Jesus crucifixion but the establishment, the aristocracy, along with the Roman govrnment. Now it is true that by the time of John's gospel anti-Semitism included all Jews. But the circumstances of the Johannine community must be considered.

 

[Jim]

Is it? I didn't realize.

I was just wondering if you’re really looking in the right place for the answer to your question. How are you picturing “Christianity,” when you say “according to Christianity”? Are you looking for the most popular view? The views of the leadership? The views of people who are following the Jesus of the gospel stories? The views of people who just believe whatever some other people say they believe?

 

[Jim]

Is it? I didn't realize.

You will get different answers here from different Christians, which could all possibly be very different from the most popular views of all the Christians of the world, of their leaders and of their theologians, which could all be different from each other. What part of all that are you thinking of when you say “according to Christianity “?