How does homosexual activity benefit society?

[nekoboy]

Since homosexuality isn't a paraphilia, but a sexual identity, this question is not germane to the topic at hand.

And yet both conditions are sexual in nature. So therefore, they are both equally hard to cure.

 

[Kerr]

Zoophiles and pedophiles are expected to put up with that misery. Homosexuals have a choice not to do that, but I will not support them either.

Zoophiles and pedophiles are fundamentally different then homosexuals.

 

[Jainarayan]

Kind of nervy... Hindus await LDS apology on Gandhi's proxy baptism | Matangi Tonga

 

[Father Heathen]

They could let the student leave.

One time, my music teacher lead a prayer before a concert, against the will of the administrators. EPIC.

There is nothing "epic" about being unprofessional and lacking integrity. Do you know understand that it's divisive and alienates those who don't belong to that particular faith? Why should the student have to leave? Why should they be singled out, humiliated and marginalized in front of other students? Religion should be a personal, private thing. Students should be allowed to pray or meditate on their own provided that it isn't disruptive. But the school itself has no place promoting a specific faith. Imagine the outcry from the christian community if a public school started leading all of the students in Islamic prayer, even if some of the students aren't muslim? It's also a slap to the face of the tax payers who fund the public school system. They shouldn't be paying for the proselytism and and indoctrination of children.

 

[waitasec]

And yet both conditions are sexual in nature. So therefore, they are both equally hard to cure.

are you applying that to heterosexuals?
if not then you are being intellectually dishonest...

 

[Jainarayan]

They could let the student leave.

Why, when the student's parents pay taxes for the child to attend school?

One time, my music teacher lead a prayer before a concert, against the will of the administrators. EPIC.

And I hope s/he was fired.

 

[waitasec]

i wonder why god would create a hermaphrodite?

 

[nekoboy]

Why, when the student's parents pay taxes for the child to attend school?

Leave the classroom, not the school itself. Anything religious in nature is not enforced, merely done on one's free will.

 

[sojourner]

What God expects us to do is to do the very best we can with our circumstances. Disability, poverty, etc. There are many of my own circumstances I never chose. And yet I got them anyway. Doesn't mean I should wallow in self pity and say "don't blame me, I was born this way".

And the very best we can expect to do with homosexuality is to express it fully through marriage.

Homosexuals aren't wallowing in self-pity. They're being subjected to societal ostracism. Big difference.

 

[Kerr]

It isn't, but it sure is insufficient.

Theism is as well.

 

[connermt]

Without any real drive in life? I don't know about you, but the atheistic world view is boring. The alternative you suggest is boring. Like Puddleglum, I prefer my religious beliefs to your depressing, purposeless "reality". My religion gives me more hope than yours could ever give me. You don't have to agree, though. I'm not really trying to persuade anyone.

No one said anything about "drive". You seem to be too scattered mentally to focus on specifics. Focus....:areyoucra
Are you really happy? You say YES, I say you're likely lying to yourself, but ultimately I don't care if you're happy or not.

It's fine for you to beleive in a magic man in the sky that doesn't exist. It's fine for you to "fight your inner demons" and relying on this "hope" from the heavens. It's also fine for you to lie to yourself and say you're happy all the while being miserable inside. It's all fine.

The issue is when people (maybe not you, but people in general) try to spread dogma as fact ("god can save you from your self"), spouting nonesense as science, quoting biased (oft time religious) dribble as fact to support a non-existant point and look down their noses at others.

 

[Kerr]

Leave the classroom, not the school itself. Anything religious in nature is not enforced, merely done on one's free will.

Which is fine, as long as it doesnt disturb the actual classes. Leaving the classroom would do that. They can pray during the breaks or something.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Leave the classroom, not the school itself. Anything religious in nature is not enforced, merely done on one's free will.

Why should my kid leave the classroom just so someone else's kid can pray?

 

[Father Heathen]

And yet both conditions are sexual in nature. So therefore, they are both equally hard to cure.

You're attempting to compare homosexuality to things that are disorders and dysfunctions. Homosexuality doesn't need cured, as there's nothing demonstrably harmful or unhealthy about it.

Bestiality and pedophilia, when acted upon, obviously brings harm to innocent children and animals, where there is never real consent, nor is there ever a real relationship.

 

[Jainarayan]

Leave the classroom, not the school itself. Anything religious in nature is not enforced, merely done on one's free will.

Wrong answer again. Schools have no legal right to lead open prayer.

 

[Meow Mix]

Butthurt atheists who take "seperation of church and state" to a ridiculous extreme, by keeping anyone from expressing religious views in public, especially in public schools.

Woah. I think you have a warped perception of what freedom of religion is. People can express their religious views in public and in public schools. All that isn't allowed is coercion from the state in the form of an endorsement of religion, particularly a specific religion or type of religion (such as monotheism).

Any student and any number of students are allowed to pray or express religious opinions any time they want in school (rather, any time they want and are reasonably able to do so without disrupting class as with any other student chatter).

I don't understand how this alarmist and cartoonish idea gets out that schools are seriously prohibiting kids from praying. I mean, I bet some idiot school or two has TRIED to do that, but I bet it was found unconstitutional for them to do that so fast...

Socialism

Ok, what socialism? To what extent? How is it threatening rights? Can you be more specific? It sounds more and more like you're parroting some socially conservative playbook rather than coming up with these reasons from your own volition.

Many examples. Fairness Doctrine, and the threats to religious freedom.

I wasn't aware the fairness doctrine was still around...?

WHAT threats to religious freedom?

 

[sojourner]

There is a reason to hope to change from paraphilia like necrophilia and zoophilia because those things are morally harmful.

Homosexuality, however, doesn't have moral connotation. It's not pathological (though it is deviant; deviant doesn't equate to "bad").

What's your favorite color? Can any amount of training and hoping cause you to change that? Why should you change that?

Actually, Meow, it's not considered to be deviant. It's considered to be normal. Homosexuality does not appear in the DSM as deviant behavior or deviant tendency.

 

[Jainarayan]

Why should my kid leave the classroom just so someone else's kid can pray?

To enforce a double standard?

 

[Agnostic75]

Schools don't have to promote it, but they should allow it. If it is a voluntary, non-denominational prayer, they should allow it.

We live in a democracy. Judges are appointed by Presidents who are elected by the people. Many court cases about the separation of church and state date back to the 1800s. The vast majority of judges in the U.S. have always been Christians, or Jews. Do you object to democracy?

 

[connermt]

It isn't, but it sure is insufficient.

To a believer maybe. But belivers are fooled into believing in something that doesn't exist as they believe it does. So it's no reason they would see it this way