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How does the story of Adam and Eve compatible with science?

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Do we have any image of the DNA, what changed there?
Yes.

Maybe you should actually read up on the experiment.
I already told you that the very mutations that lead to the novel trait were identified.

There's a track record of specimen of regular intervals, which have been frozen so that they could go back and compare the DNA with the ancestors.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member

Because the satellites travel at high speeds around the world.
A GPS "client" on earth pinpoints its position by sending signals to these satelites and back and then compares the difference of time.

Because of the relativistic effects (observer on earth vs the traveling satelite), if you don't calibrate the internal clocks of the satellites to accomodate for these relativistic effects, the client positioning will be off by several miles. This because, relative to the observer on earth, time on the satelite flows at a different rate.

If the internal clocks of the satelites are calibrated to run at a slower rate as compared to those on earth, then it can pinpoint your position with an accuracy of 1 to 3 meters.

That's why.


That's basic relativity: relative to the observe, time slows down as speed goes up.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Because the satellites travel at high speeds around the world.
A GPS "client" on earth pinpoints its position by sending signals to these satelites and back and then compares the difference of time.

Because of the relativistic effects (observer on earth vs the traveling satelite), if you don't calibrate the internal clocks of the satellites to accomodate for these relativistic effects, the client positioning will be off by several miles. This because, relative to the observer on earth, time on the satelite flows at a different rate.

If the internal clocks of the satelites are calibrated to run at a slower rate as compared to those on earth, then it can pinpoint your position with an accuracy of 1 to 3 meters.

That's why.


That's basic relativity: relative to the observe, time slows down as speed goes up.
When it comes to GPS corrections for both Special and General relativity must be made.


There is one orbit where the effects of the two cancel.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Again, you simply do not get it as both accounts include an order that don't match, ...
But, Genesis is not speaking of creation of animals, nor plants. It tells God planted a garden, which doesn't mean plants would not have been created before it. And it tells God formed animals, which also doesn't mean animals could not have been created already.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Here’s the kicker: They aren’t necessarily true if they are only theory status. Theory of relativity has currently been brought into question by mapping dark matter. Ergo they are only beliefs.
Nope. You still do not understand the difference between knowledge and belief.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
There is a lot to be said for trusting false. Science does not work by proving ideas right. It works by proving ideas to be wrong.

Well, I am not a scientist. I learned about right and wrong to the degree I have, because I am crazy and thus wrong.
I really had to check all versions of:
Someone: I know how the world works for all of us and you don't and thus you are wrong.

Since I am a high functioning crazy person, yet still crazy, I had to learn to check my own thinking and other peoples thinking as in the end all versions of true and false.
And no, I don't know them all as true or false. I just have a rather robust model of it, but it is not true. ;)
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Could you who the images and with them the difference?
"Could you...", what now?

Read up on the experiment if you are interested.
Although I doubt you will understand it, considering your lack of even the most basic knowledge concerning evolutionary biology.

I also doubt you are actually interested
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
So where do you emphatically know (and not believe) all land mammals come from since the dinosaurs.
Smaller reptiles than the dinosaurs is likely, and some fossils have been found that may fit the bill.

It is literally just common sense that there has been, and still is, an evolutionary process as all matter tends to change over time. The Eastern religions understand this, but some in the Abrahamics don't.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Smaller reptiles than the dinosaurs is likely, and some fossils have been found that may fit the bill.

It is literally just common sense that there has been, and still is, an evolutionary process as all matter tends to change over time. The Eastern religions understand this, but some in the Abrahamics don't.
Knowledgable Christians understand evolution within species but to say Darwinian evolution is common sense, that ‘some fossils may fit the bill’ and ‘matter tends to change’ is far too pithy. It is clearly not knowledge but belief. You need to know what mammal evolved from the time of mass extinction of the dinosaurs for it not to be a belief.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So where do you emphatically know (and not believe) all land mammals come from since the dinosaurs.
I understand how life is the product of evolution. I can produce endless evidence for the process. Unfortunately you keep yourself from being qualified to judge that topic since you refuse to learn even the basics of science. I could teach you the basics of science, if you were not afraid to learn and could be honest enough to handle it. Then you could start to understand the science and would even have a chance of refuting it.

Are you ready to learn or are you still afraid? If you a refuse to learn you cannot blame others for not explaining to you what you refuse to understand.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Knowledgable Christians understand evolution within species but to say Darwinian evolution is common sense, that ‘some fossils may fit the bill’ and ‘matter tends to change’ is far too pithy. It is clearly not knowledge but belief. You need to know what mammal evolved from the time of mass extinction of the dinosaurs for it not to be a belief.
Incorrect. Knowledgeable Christians accept the fact of evolution. There are no honest and informed creationists. No one has found one to date.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
To reiterate, you need to know exactly what mammal evolved from the time of mass extinction of the dinosaurs for your belief not to be a belief.
Why would one need to know that? Have you ever thought that someone was guilty of murder? Did you ever know that someone was guilty of murder? Oh wait, did you know what he had for breakfast that day? You can't convict him if you did not now what he had for breakfast on the day of the murder or else you only have a belief.

You need to work on your ability to reason rationally. Lame excuses are not a refutation.
 
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