We differ in that opinion. But let's not do the debate of psi abilities again, it gets tiring. Let's just differ.
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How does the story of Adam and Eve compatible with science?
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We differ in that opinion. But let's not do the debate of psi abilities again, it gets tiring. Let's just differ.
nPeace
Veteran Member
I believe you have read the Bible IT. From your reading of the Bible, was Adam and Eve created out of thin air?
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Since when Adam and Eve become a history? Do you not agree that it is absolutely false?
You believe in alien visits too.
What about some one being the son of God (immaculate conception) and resurrection?
Wonder, what then is true in Bible!
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Subduction Zone
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It is hardly an opinion. I could find many examples of clairvoyance failing. Do you have an proper examples of clairvoyance ever working? Granted, my posts of clairvoyance not working would not disprove it. But if it did work you should be able to find valid examples of it.
nPeace
Veteran Member
I wonder about that too, myself.
It seems God as described in the Bible, is a weak man... to some.
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Subduction Zone
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Not "weak". He is obviously incompetent, evil, and vain.
Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Incompetent? Lol. God has given science for you to spend your time wondering about things. Atheists do the evil, vain act, chasing their tail. Some perversely whine about God and the diseases they get but never have a bad word for germ theory. Who did you say was incompetent again? Line ‘em up for the Richard Dawkins Award.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes, incompetent. Haven't you read the Garden of Eden myth? Do you not realize how badly God screwed up in that story and then how he blamed Adam and Eve for his failure?
I see you hadn't read the rest of my post yet before responding.
Apparently my humor escapes you.You believe in alien visits too.
If you understand the nature of metaphor and symbol, then the answer would be quite a lot. Do think Science is the only way to see and understand Truth?
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Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
If you apply doubt to germ theory by whining drivel about God then atheism is a real religion.
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What are you whining about now? But very nice way to tell us that you do not understand science without mentioning science directly.
InvestigateTruth
Veteran Member
From my reading it says they were created from clay.
But since I am a Baha'i, I believe in Baha'i interpretation of the Bible. If I was not a Bahai, then I would have thought it is saying literally God created Adam from Clay, and then Eve from a part of Adam. Then that wouldn't be compatible with Science.q
But since the Bahai scriptures says this is a symbolic story, then I don't take it literally.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Why can't it just be the creation myth of an ancient people? I doubt very highly that a symbolic story about a symbolic man and woman that listened to a talking serpent and ate a forbidden fruit that had magical powers would have had much of an impact on the people. But a supposedly true story about a God that can curse and punish those that disobey him, now that has some power to it.
SubZone is correct. God set up Adam and Eve to fail. If you disagree then you're calling God a failure because the face value reading of the story is that God wanted them to obey, and they didn't. Wow, God couldn't create beings capable of basic obedience? Why put the tree of knowledge in easy access? Why send the serpent to tempt them if you REALLY wanted them to obey?
Of course humanity was fallen and bacame sinful, and what does God do as a solution? He floods the planet killing babies and innocent people and animals. Did it fix sin? No way, sin was back with Noah getting drunk and, well you know. So sin was back, and God decided to fix it again, this time raping a woman so she had a baby boy that would grow up to be executed so God the Father could absolve the sins of mankind. Gee whiz, God had to arrange a death to make that happen? Did it fix anything? How many Christians are actually honorable and earn respect? Not enough. Massive failure by God.
Apples and imaginary oranges.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
It is your background (samskaras), prejudice and your own weakness. You see the problem but do not accept it.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
You did not answer my question. What in Bible can be taken as truth? Why metaphors and symbolism? Why not say what one means in clear, plain language? See, how these fake stories, have created may-hem in the world, put one man against the other?
InvestigateTruth
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It could have come from an old myth of an ancient people. In that case that would be one side of the story. The Prophets then, have taken the myth, and modified it, added to it, and created symbolic meanings.
"Our situation calls to mind a backstage interview with Anna Pavlova, the dancer. Following an illustrious and moving performance, she was asked the meaning of the dance. She replied, “If I could say it, do you think I should have danced it?” To give dance a literal meaning would be to reduce dancing to something else. It would lose its capacity to involve the whole person. And one would miss all the subtle nuances and delicate shadings and rich polyvalences of the dance itself.
The remark has its parallel in religion. The early ethnologist R. R. Marett is noted for his dictum that “religion is not so much thought out as danced out.” But even when thought out, religion is focused in the verbal equivalent of the dance: myth, symbol and metaphor. To insist on assigning to it a literal, one-dimensional meaning is to shrink and stifle and distort the significance. In the words of E. H. W. Meyer- stein, “Myth is my tongue, which means not that I cheat, but stagger in a light too great to bear.” Religious expression trembles with a sense of inexpressible mystery, a mystery which nevertheless addresses us in the totality of our being.
The literal imagination is univocal. Words mean one thing, and one thing only. They don’t bristle with meanings and possibilities; they are bald, clean-shaven. Literal clarity and simplicity, to be sure, offer a kind of security in a world (or Bible) where otherwise issues seem incorrigibly complex, ambiguous and muddy. But it is a false security, a temporary bastion, maintained by dogmatism and misguided loyalty. Literalism pays a high price for the hope of having firm and unbreakable handles attached to reality. The result is to move in the opposite direction from religious symbolism, emptying symbols of their amplitude of meaning and power, reducing the cosmic dance to a calibrated discussion."
I would highly recommend reading this entire essay. I think it will answer your question. Biblical Literalism: Constricting the Cosmic Dance – Religion Online