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How Dumb Cops Create Danger

We Never Know

No Slack
Vacationing Cop Puts The "Pee" In Chicago P.D.
Excerpted....
DECEMBER 6--A Chicago cop vacationing in Florida was arrested early yesterday after being caught urinating into an ice machine at a beachside bar, according to police who charged the visiting lawman with
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battery and disorderly conduct.

According to police, an employee of the Jimmy B’s Beach Bar in St. Petersburg was “attempting to get ice from the ice machine” around 12:30 AM when he discovered Henry Capouch, 30, “‘pissing’ on the ice in the machine.”

When the worker, Richard Klees, told Capouch to stop, the accused urinator cursed Klees and shoved him “a couple times,” according to an arrest affidavit. Capouch subsequently shoved a security guard, cops allege.

Upon arriving at the bar, which is part of the Beachcomber resort, police found Capouch and his girlfriend on the nearby sand. Capouch, cops charge, “was actively resisting” and “not obeying lawful commands while being detained.”

Cops are human just like the rest of us...they just have a different job.
We hold them to higher standards while ignoring their stress levels.
However some think they are above the law which goes back to they are just humans like the rest of us.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Honestly, it's stuff like that why I never put how bad my mood really gets here because I don't anyone to send the pigs for a wellness check. Even if I was on the verge of killing myself here is the last place I'd mention it because the cops would manage to make things worse for me, especially if I tell them to go away because I don't want to talk to them.
Also reminds me of a pig in Peru (that Peru with the clowns and your engine show) who tased an elderly man at a nursing home who had advanced Alzheimers. Why? This young, fit man couldn't handle an old man with an advanced form dementia being noncompliant. A judge in the next county over saved his job.
They're trained to shoot & handcuff people,
not understand, counsel, or assist them.
There was another pig there, years later, who threatened to shoot the (now former) mayor amd some others because he didn't get a day off that he didn't properly request off. Turns out threatening to shoot the upper rungs of the local political scene will get you fired.
Wellness checks often result in loss of wellness, eh.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops are human just like the rest of us...they just have a different job.
We hold them to higher standards while ignoring their stress levels.
However some think they are above the law which goes back to they are just humans like the rest of us.
Actually, we hold them to far lower legal standards.
They very often avoid prosecution or any sanction
for breaking the law, eg, speeding, wrongful arrest,
killing, robbing.
They shouldn't be humans just like the rest of us.
The job requires people who are much better than
average in critical skills.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Wellness checks often result in loss of wellness, eh.
Yup. Distraught neighbors at witts end but trying to help in some way, even if its just making sure no one is hurt, they're usually better at dealing with these things than the cops, and people should avoid calling the cops because too often a pig shows up, makes things worse, and murders someone who was very ill. The mentally ill are about 25 times more likely than a base group to be killed by the police. Please find someone else to send other than these butchers.
*just to clarify I myself am not in crisis, and am speaking more generally.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In this case, cops kill the victim of a carjacking
by brutally pulling him thru his car window.
He was willing to get out of the car, but the
cops had other ideas....that cost the taxpayers
$3,800,000.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Chasing a bank robber into a music school, a
Chicago cop wielding a semi auto rifle starts
wildly shooting while students were still there.
He shoots one student in the arm, & kills the
fleeing robber shooting him in the back.
The student needed 18 operations to get
limited use of his arm back.

The city (taxpayers, not the cop) paid him
$1,900,000 just before jury selection in the trial.
The cops say the cop who shot him is a hero
who did nothing wrong.
If that's a departmental hero, I wonder what
the bad cops in Chicago are like.

For those interested...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops pull over a man for an expired plate near midnite.
Cops arrest man for an unpaid ticket 5 years old.
Cops haul him away.
Problem....
Cops leave the man's 4 young children in the running car.
(None is old enuf to drive.)
Mother drives around looking for them, & finally locates
the very upset children. No one was injured, fortunately.

If a civilian left kids in a running car at nite to go elsewhere
for a couple days, it would be a felony. If a cop does it,
there is no accountability.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Man in an ambulance is panicking because he's
suffocating. EMT calls cops to give him the boot
because she dislikes his distressed behavior.
Man in obvious medical distress asks cops to take
him to hospital. They refuse. (Unless he's under
arrest, there's no legal requirement for cops to
give him any assistance.)
Man manages to walk to a bench, but collapses
onto the sidewalk. He's no longer moving.
Cops & EMT ignore him for a couple minutes,
& only then does he get any help.
He later dies in a hospital.

Legal analysis...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That is terrifying. She tried to kill someone without pulling the trigger. She needs a psych eval and her case handled appropriately based on the results.
It appears to just be a case of incompetence
& wanton disregard by cops.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops are looking for 30 something old
black man who "out-ran a car".
Cops spot 65 year old black man using
a walker....& walking, not running.
Cops tackle & arrest him.
Taxpayers pay out $75,000.
Cops tried to keep the videos hidden.
It took news media a year to see them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Cops arrest man on outstanding warrant.
They beat, taze, & sic a K9 on him to chew
away at him. At the hospital, where the
man needs surgery, cops discover....
Oopsie! Wrong guy. Wrong name.
Prosecutor drops charges against the man.
(They charged him anyway?)
For this vicious assault, the cops are being
charged with only misdemeanor assault.
They aren't arrested or jailed.
They're on leave. Paid?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If you attack a cop, it's straight to jail, &
you're prosecuted with multiple felonies.
If a cop attacks you, it's either swept under
the rug, or it's a misdemeanor, with possibly
no jail time at all.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If you attack a cop, it's straight to jail, &
you're prosecuted with multiple felonies.
If a cop attacks you, it's either swept under
the rug, or it's a misdemeanor, with possibly
no jail time at all.
I'm prepared to give cops a fair bit of leeway because they do a job I don't want to do, go into dangerous places I don't want to go into, deal with people I by and large don't want to deal with.

But I draw the line at gratuitous physical assault, even if some of the time I more or less understand it.

I recall a Michael Moore show on TV where he tapped on the window of a parked police car, and spoke to a police officer inside, asking him how it felt to be deemed suitable for the job because that police department didn't want cops with an IQ higher than a particular level below 100. (The officer just gave him a long look and wound up the window.) I didn't think Mr Moore was very funny there. If he had an argument, it was with City Hall or the state legislature, not the troops on the ground.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm prepared to give cops a fair bit of leeway because they do a job I don't want to do, go into dangerous places I don't want to go into, deal with people I by and large don't want to deal with.
It's not that dangerous a job statistically...not
even in the 25 most dangerous jobs in USA.
Most dangerous is tree trimming. But those
guys don't have a PR machine to portray them
as selfless heroes.

You don't want their job. But they do.
This shouldn't give them legal immunity from
harming people out of carelessness,
incompetence, or criminal inten.
But I draw the line at gratuitous physical assault, even if some of the time I more or less understand it.

I recall a Michael Moore show on TV where he tapped on the window of a parked police car, and spoke to a police officer inside, asking him how it felt to be deemed suitable for the job because that police department didn't want cops with an IQ higher than a particular level below 100. (The officer just gave him a long look and wound up the window.) I didn't think Mr Moore was very funny there. If he had an argument, it was with City Hall or the state legislature, not the troops on the ground.
Moore is famous, & had a film crew.
When ordinary civilians who knock on cop
car windows to offer criticism, it doesn't
always turn out well.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It's not that dangerous a job statistically...not
even in the 25 most dangerous jobs in USA.
Most dangerous is tree trimming. But those
guys don't have a PR machine to portray them
as selfless heroes.

You don't want their job. But they do.
This shouldn't give them legal immunity from
harming people out of carelessness,
incompetence, or criminal inten.

Moore is famous, & had a film crew.
When ordinary civilians who knock on cop
car windows to offer criticism, it doesn't
always turn out well.
The tree-trimmers who do my street every few years come fully armed, with special cranes with safety buckets, a ground crew, and a chipping machine to get rid of the severed parts (shades of Fargo the movie). I guess there are less safe ways and more safe ways of trimming big trees.

I have no argument with your "no immunity" proposition. But they do a job I don't want to do, and parts of that job are important, and however rarely, sometimes heroic. Credit where credit is due, just as discredit where discredit is due.
 
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