How Many of You Want a "LGBTI and Allies Only" Subforum?

[Kirran]

Well what about the LGBs who dislike being associated with the TIs, etc.?

This is not a small group as they draw a line between Sexuality and Identity politics.

Sub-DIR?

 

[Flankerl]

I just wanted to make clear that there is no unified LGBT+ movement and you'd have to take this into account when starting such a Forum.

 

[Sunstone]

*Bump*

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I just wanted to make clear that there is no unified LGBT+ movement and you'd have to take this into account when starting such a Forum.

Feminism, capitalism, socialism, communism, liberalism, libertarianism. conservatism, etc. are not unified movements, either.

 

[Buttercup]

What we're looking for here is how many people would use the subforum. Why would we need to ask how many people won't use the subforum if we want to know how many people will use it?

I'm chiming in with an allied "Yea" for the sub-form. There are only 22 yesses so far. How large of a consensus do you need?

 

[Sunstone]

I'm chiming in with an allied "Yea" for the sub-form. There are only 22 yesses so far. How large of a consensus do you need?

The bigger the better.

 

[The Mormonator]

Ok, I'll do your homework for you.

Here's a thread in the General Debates Forum for people to debate whether or not there should be an LGBT Only subforum: LGBTI DIR request.

Now, as repeatedly stated in this thread:

This thread, on the other hand, is not for debating whether or not there should be an LGBT Only subforum. This thread is to help us find out how many people want such a subforum.

Now, if you think about it, I'm sure you'll see that there's no point in asking how many people don't want an LGBT Only subforum in a thread whose purpose is to ask how many people do want an LGBT subforum.

Again, I'll slow it down for you......why make it a poll if there's only ONE answer to choose from?

 

[The Mormonator]

Interesting.
But it begs the question:

Who asked you?​

Doesn't matter, does it? Maybe there should have been a disclaimer that read "straight, non-confused folks need not reply".

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Again, I'll slow it down for you......why make it a poll if there's only ONE answer to choose from?

The OP explains this.

The purpose of this poll is to get an idea of how many people are for such a subforum -- not how many people are against it. That's because we don't expect people who are against it to actually be forced to use it. Thus there is only one way to vote, and that is to vote to show you would like such a subforum.

He had to put yes twice because there's a standard minimum of two options for a poll.

 

[The Mormonator]

The OP explains this.



He had to put yes twice because there's a standard minimum of two options for a poll.

It's still not a poll.

 

[Buttercup]

It's still not a poll.

You're still missing the point of this thread.

 

[The Mormonator]

No I'm not.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Doesn't matter, does it? Maybe there should have been a disclaimer that read "straight, non-confused folks need not reply".

More than a bit pretentious. I'm a cis-gendered straight person and I've replied. If you don't want LGBT people to have their own public DIR-esque area start a thread somewhere or support such a thread if it's already started. Or you don't need to say anything; up to you.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

It's still not a poll.

You're right. But then it's not designed to be a poll. But the forum feature used to create what, in this case, can be more accurately described as a tally was the poll creation feature.

No I'm not.

You really are. The thread's designed to see how many members support the idea of a public LGBT area - not to debate whether it's a good idea.

 

[Maponos]

I do not wish for such a thing.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Ok, I'll do your homework for you.m

Here's a thread in the General Debates Forum for people to debate whether or not there should be an LGBT Only subforum: LGBTI DIR request.

Now, as repeatedly stated in this thread:

This thread, on the other hand, is not for debating whether or not there should be an LGBT Only subforum. This thread is to help us find out how many people want such a subforum.

Now, if you think about it, I'm sure you'll see that there's no point in asking how many people don't want an LGBT Only subforum in a thread whose purpose is to ask how many people do want an LGBT subforum.

Im not piggie backing on mon. and forgive me if it sounds debative, it is not. Its a suggestion.



Can 20 votes decide whether its fair to create a sub-forum that 80 may disagree with but we dont know because they werent given an option to vote?

That, and even if there was a no (counteracting my own post), it wouldnt dictate what RF members want as a whole cause probably 1% would answer yes and no ans the 99% percent would stay out leaving staff to guess whether the majority disagrees or just doesnt care.

The poll is fine. Just saying it can be improved if you considering better statistics than 1 percent of the yesers.

This is talking about the poll not a debate of whether GBLTI should be made so the other thread is inappropriate to the suggestion Im making.

 

[Katzpur]

I voted "yes." I think it would be helpful for us non-LGBT people who would like to be able to understand the issues faced by the LGBT community in a non-debate arena.

 

[Draka]

No I'm not.

If you're in a room full of people and you need to know how many of them want the fish for dinner do you need to know how many don't want the fish as well in order to know how many fish dinners you need? No. You just need a basic number of "yeas", you don't care about the "nays", now do you? When figuring out how many fish dinners to make do you need to know Sally doesn't like fish? Or that Stan is vegan? No. You just need the dang number to make. That's all the poll is trying to get an idea of. The number who would use the subforum were it available. That is the point. And obviously you didn't get it.

 

[The Mormonator]

If you're in a room full of people and you need to know how many of them want the fish for dinner do you need to know how many don't want the fish as well in order to know how many fish dinners you need? No. You just need a basic number of "yeas", you don't care about the "nays", now do you? When figuring out how many fish dinners to make do you need to know Sally doesn't like fish? Or that Stan is vegan? No. You just need the dang number to make. That's all the poll is trying to get an idea of. The number who would use the subforum were it available. That is the point. And obviously you didn't get it.

That's a ridiculous comparison. If you want to know how many "yes's"......then create a thread asking for that. Don't make a "poll" with only one choice. Just make a thread. Pretty simple, if you ask any educated person.

 

[Draka]

That's a ridiculous comparison. If you want to know how many "yes's"......then create a thread asking for that. Don't make a "poll" with only one choice. Just make a thread. Pretty simple, if you ask any educated person.

That's actually ridiculous. By having the poll option you have a very easy and concise way of getting an actual verifiable number. If you just ask on a thread you have to wade through pages of replies to figure out who has said what and make up lists on your own. Plus there is the fact that people's written replies can be interpreted different ways if they aren't direct in what they say. The logical choice would be to use the poll option. Perhaps logic escapes you, but that truly is the most logical way to get the results he's looking for.