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How Odd Is Putin's Russia?

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I love Europe.
And I love all the people who love Europe.

It's offensive towards us Europeans. Because you guys believe we are handicapped. :)
No, it's offensive to most people and has nothing to do with Europeans. Also, "handicapped" should be avoided too.
You claim that the United States are interested in the Ukraine War because they are all philanthropists.
No, I don't.
Whereas even cats here know that USA just wants to conquer Russia and to seize its resources.
No, they don't. The U.S. isn't perfect and often does bad stuff, but no, we don't want to actually conquer Russia and seize its resources. That's Russian propaganda.
The results of the latest EU elections say the opposite...for the record.
No, they don't. For the record.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That’s the problem with your thinking right there. You believe everything can be divided between one extreme view and another. That is not how reality works. The only way to align your thinking with reality is to get into detailed analysis. Spend a few months digging deep on a site like DeepDyve (the do free trials), where you can access real scholarship and develop and understanding of how the world works.
Sounds like something Kissinger would say. Realpolitik, he would say.
Well...I believe Kissinger is in that circle that Dante Alighieri used to call the bolgia of barrators, I guess. :)

Unfortunately my religion orders me to split the world in two categories. The wicked and the just.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
@mikkel_the_dane
Your narrative does not do any good to Americans.
It deludes them. They will believe we can't wait to fight the war against the tsar....whereas the reality is completely different.
And the EU is walking on thin ice.
 
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Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Sounds like something Kissinger would say. Realpolitik, he would say.
Well...I believe Kissinger is in that circle that Dante Alighieri used to call the bolgia of barrators, I guess. :)

Unfortunately my religion orders me to split the world in two categories. The wicked and the just.
Unless your religion is some obscure one, it does not do that. You can acknowledge good and bad and that almost all people are somewhere in the middle. The vast majority of Christians do that every day.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
No, it's offensive to most people and has nothing to do with Europeans. Also, "handicapped" should be avoided too.
Handicap is a medical word.
No, they don't. The U.S. isn't perfect and often does bad stuff, but no, we don't want to actually conquer Russia and seize its resources. That's Russian propaganda.
Russia has never said anything of that sort.
It's the Neo-Cons and other politicians who say "we should have the raw materials and the fuels Russia has".
They admit that themselves.
Since I can hear, my hearing works perfectly...I heard them.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
@mikkel_the_dane
Your narrative does not any good to Americans.
It will delude them. They will believe we can't wait to fight the war against the tsar....whereas the reality is completely different.
And the EU is walking on thin ice.

Yeah, I know. I am an uncover agent for the satanistic godless child eating banking elites and you will never be able to stop me.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Yes.
European People's Party.
Ah right...Berlusconi's Party. Who said that Zelenskyy should not have done what he did.
Berlusconi "I judge this gentleman very negatively".

Not to mention many other parties who are clearly against the escalation of the war.
In Germany, in the CDU and others.
No wonder Scholz lost the elections.
Renew.
Greens.
Your article says that these two lost the elections. 25% and 18% less.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Handicap is a medical word.
It is not (emphasis mine):

hand·i·capped
/ˈhandēˌkapt/
adjective
offensive•dated

  1. having a condition that markedly restricts one's ability to function physically, mentally, or socially.
    "a special school for handicapped children"
Russia has never said anything of that sort.
Putin has. That's why you believe it.
It's the Neo-Cons and other politicians who say "we should have the raw materials and the fuels Russia has".
Go ahead and link me to the people saying that.
They admit that themselves.
Since I can hear, my hearing works perfectly...I heard them.
Cool, then show me where they said this.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
He didn't. Not even in the interview by Carlson.
If you believe he didn't say it, it still fits with his propaganda that you do believe. It fits right into that false pro-Russia narrative you love so much.
You don't watch videos. So I'll pass, dear mister.

You don't watch videos.
If you have videos of people saying this, post them. What I don't care for are your random videos of Youtubers and fictional content. You claim people said this thing. If there's video of it, that's what you should post. Or you can hide behind this attempt at an excuse for the fact that no one said this, so you don't have the evidence.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Yeah, here is an EPP site.

So you agree that the EPP are against Putin?
From the site as per this page:
"
United in Solidarity with Ukraine: Defending European Values against Putin’s War
Supporting the Ukrainian People and isolating Putin ..."
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Superb statement.
That is absolutely perfect. It says that the aim is to simply condemn the act of invasion and to sanction it through aid to Ukraine and economic sanctions.
Nothing about WW3.

Whatever. Do you want me to find pages from the other parties which are for Ukraine and against Putin?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Whatever. Do you want me to find pages from the other parties which are for Ukraine and against Putin?
I have never said that we as European Union ought to roll red carpets at Russian troops.
I have just said that the procedure is to follow international law...and to use economic sanctions to dissuade the Russian army from conquering the whole of Ukraine. It has worked: they just claim the four regions, and we can give them to them for the sake of peace.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I have never said that we as European Union ought to roll red carpets at Russian troops.
I have just said that the procedure is to follow international law...and to use economic sanctions to dissuade the Russian army from conquering the whole of Ukraine. It has worked: they just claim the four regions, and we can give them to them for the sake of peace.

Well, the point of your claim was the far right won the majority in the EU elections. They didn't.
 
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