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How we know that there was no Flood of Noah.

james dixon

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The images that you posted only told us of your ignorance. It did nothing to help you defend your belief.

What I find most amazing about the "Flood" story is that this story was even told at that time. No one during this time period knew about "great floods" and yet we find it mentioned in ancient biblical text.
There are other things in Genesis that are far ahead of the times as well. Reading Genesis is like reading a book on evolution.
 

james dixon

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LOL, sorry, that is not the work of "Archaeologists". And rapid flow of water does not mean "flood" either. Nor does the existence of a flood plain support the flood myth. Why not link the article? I could explain it to you. But since you like picture so much here is one that clearly refutes the flood myth, if you understand what you are looking at:

Why not link the article?
 

Subduction Zone

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What I find most amazing about the "Flood" story is that this story was even told at that time. No one during this time period knew about "great floods" and yet we find it mentioned in ancient biblical text.
There are other things in Genesis that are far ahead of the times as well. Reading Genesis is like reading a book on evolution.


Myths are perpetuated for many generations and often grow in the telling. The most likely inspiration for the Noah's Ark myth was a flood that happened a little less than 5,000 years ago in my opinon:

https://ncse.com/library-resource/yes-noahs-flood-may-have-happened-not-over-whole-earth

What is so amazing about such a story being passed on?
 

Subduction Zone

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Why not link the article?

In this case there is no "article". I could explain it to you. Unlike you where you merely posted some images that you did not understand and ran. I can support my claims of course.

Tell me, what is the most striking trait in the picture that I linked?

Oops, it is now on the prior page, here it is again:

image
 

james dixon

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Keep in mind-----

Earth’s diameter is 7,918 miles across.

Mount Everest is 5.4 miles high

The deepest ocean is 6.7 miles deep

If you looked at a cross-section of earth where the model of the earth was ten feet across, the highest mountain and the lowest point of our ocean would not be visible by the necked eye.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Scripture says the heavens opened up AND the waters of the "great deep" burst forth. So we have a flood coming from the sky as well as the core of the earth. We see there are still places where water is flowing out of the earth in the ocean. It's hot!

Yellow Stone !!!
 

Subduction Zone

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Because it wasn't a "story", it was a fact.
Nope, a fairy tale probably based upon a large flood. But no boat, was needed and no livestock on it the nonexistent boat either. Once again if you are going to be here you should try to learn why you are wrong. Bleating your ignorance only harms your case.
 

Subduction Zone

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Keep in mind-----

Earth’s diameter is 7,918 miles across.

Mount Everest is 5.4 miles high

The deepest ocean is 6.7 miles deep

If you looked at a cross-section of earth where the model of the earth was ten feet across, the highest mountain and the lowest point of our ocean would not be visible by the necked eye.
So what? Do you have a point here? Water flows very easily under the force of gravity. It does not tend to pile up to heights of over five miles on its own, or even with any help.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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Keep in mind-----

Earth’s diameter is 7,918 miles across.

Mount Everest is 5.4 miles high

The deepest ocean is 6.7 miles deep

If you looked at a cross-section of earth where the model of the earth was ten feet across, the highest mountain and the lowest point of our ocean would not be visible by the necked eye.

To scale, the planet earth is smoother than a billiards ball.

But it would still require many times more water than has ever existed on this planet to cover it 15 cubits over the highest mountain
 

james dixon

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Tell me, what is the most striking trait in the picture that I linked?

If the river bead as shown is "x" feet across the width of the outer bank is "x"x50 times wider. Natural erosion could not have done that. In short the width of the river would have to have been as wide as the highest banks you are now seeing. Where did that extra water come from?
 

Subduction Zone

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If the river bead as shown is "x" feet across the width of the outer bank is "x"x50 times wider. Natural erosion could not have done that. In short the width of the river would have to have been as wide as the highest banks you are now seeing. Where did that extra water come from?


What extra water? That cannot form with extra water, that can only form with slow steady erosion.

The most striking part of the picture are the meanders. Do you see how the stream bends back and forth?
 

james dixon

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But it would still require many times more water than has ever existed

The mountains were not always that tall. Plate tectonics pushed the land up and up until we have the mountains we have now. Mount Everest is still climbing higher.

What I need to do is calculate the volume of the oceans water and then lay this on a flat earth to see how deep it would be.
 

james dixon

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What extra water? That cannot form with extra water, that can only form with slow steady erosion.

The Mississippi river and the Nile river have been flowing for as long and you do not see this kind of erosion there, so tell me why not?

btw I could be arguing myself into a corner I cannot get out of
 

james dixon

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Nope, a fairy tale probably based upon a large flood. But no boat, was needed and no livestock on it the nonexistent boat either

That story was used as an analogy because the point to be made was to a crowd of people that did not understand science in the way we do now.

In my view
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The mountains were not always that tall. Plate tectonics pushed the land up and up until we have the mountains we have now. Mount Everest is still climbing higher.

What I need to do is calculate the volume of the oceans water and then lay this on a flat earth to see how deep it would be.

Mount Everest, the highest mountain has been pushed up about 31 metres in 4400 years (Noah's flood is estimated at around 4360 years ago )

I have calculated it, very easy, take the average diameter of earth (it varies) and take the diameter at 6.85 metres above Everest minus 31metres for growth. Subtract one from the other and voila!!! The rough amount of extra water required to flood earth as described in the Bible

Hint, it helps if you work in cubic kilometers or miles othewise the numbers take up a lot of paper.

And here is a representation of the amount of water on earth


global-water-volume-fresh-large.jpg


Edit, seems the image won't display, heres the link
https://water.usgs.gov/edu/pictures/full-size/global-water-volume-fresh-large.jpg
 
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james dixon

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And here is a representation of the amount of water on earth

If spread out over the entire earth it would only make the surface damp but well over your head and yet the World trade Center would stick out above it.

in my view of things
 
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