How we know that there was no Flood of Noah.

[james dixon]

To those who are interested, I would advise them to read the complete “Report on Second Cambridge Conference,” an article by Mark Bailey Posted December 15 1997. Following is a small extract from said article.

Thank you for jumping into this discussion/debate.

I have copied your post for further reading.

Be warned, if sub doesn't like you his first rebuttal is telling you how dumb you are while ignoring the obvious.

Please let this go in one ear and out the other while adding your input to this debate.

Again thanks for being here..

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thank you for jumping into this discussion/debate.

I have copied your post for further reading.

Be warned, if sub doesn't like you his first rebuttal is telling you how dumb you are while ignoring the obvious.

Please let this go in one ear and out the other while adding you input to this debate.

Again thanks for being here..

Now now. There is a Commandment against what you have just done. As an ex-Christian I seem to be following the Commandments better than you do.

 

[james dixon]

What does this have to do with the thread?

Look for the word "flood" in the post.
This may help and then again, maybe not

 

[james dixon]

As an ex-Christian I seem to be following the Commandments better than you do.

So said the spider to the fly

 

[Subduction Zone]

Look for the word "flood" in the post.
This may help and then again, maybe not

No point. He is merely trying to claim that events timed differently are the same at the best. We know that areas of the Earth have been flooded in the past. You are trying to claim there was one worldwide one, not a bunch of local floods. We know that the latter did not happen.

I know that you are grasping at straws but that is ridiculous.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So said the spider to the fly

Wow. So what is your religion?

 

[james dixon]

You are trying to claim there was one worldwide one

No I am not. Your argument is----
slipping, slipping away
slipping, slipping away
slipping, slipping away
poof--- gone into the never-never land

but sub, it was fun
I hope we cross paths once again

 

[Subduction Zone]

No I am not. Your argument is----
slipping, slipping away
slipping, slipping away
slipping, slipping away
poof--- gone into the never-never land

but sub, it was fun
I hope we cross paths once again

Not at all. You are merely repeating ignorant and refuted arguments.

Tell me, are Christians supposed to be honest? Are Christians supposed to follow the Ten Commandments? At best you seem to only follow Nine.

Sadly when it comes to debating you are not that challenging of an opponent.

 

[james dixon]

Tell me, are Christians supposed to be honest? Are Christians supposed to follow the Ten Commandments? At best you seem to only follow Nine.

Ok, now I know why you are no longer a Christian.
case closed

 

[james dixon]

Although the flood story as handed down from Noah to his descendant Abraham, may have been a local event around Ireland and the coasts of the Mediterranean Sea, and as far inland to the Euphrates and beyond, it would have been recorded as an event which had flooded their entire known world.

Thank you sir for your contribution to this debate.

Please stick around

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ok, now I know why you are no longer a Christian.
case closed

How so? You clearly broke the Ninth? Of course I have told you that I was not a Christian. Though it appears that I could sadly make the same claim about you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thank you sir for your contribution to this debate.

Please stick around

But he failed. Did you not understand his error?

Let me try to explain to you. People that tend to live by water, and since people need water they do tend to do that, also suffer when those areas flood. That they make myths about those events is not unreasonable. He gave an event for a local flood in Ireland that occurred at a different time than when other areas were flooded. He posted evidence against the flood myth at best.

 

[james dixon]

Sub, I'd like to stick around and debunk your points one after the other but alas, I have to go.

may you and your live long and prosper

bye, for now

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sub, I'd like to stick around and debunk your points one after the other but alas, I have to go.

may you and your live long and prosper

bye, for now

But you can't. So far all you have done is to spew nonsense and run away when challenged.

If you wish to learn why we know that there was no flood I will gladly help you. And I can help you on some of your errant non-biblical beliefs as a Christian as well.

 

[The Anointed]

TLDR.

What does this have to do with the thread?

It has everything to do with the flood of Noah as revealed in the Scriptures.

 

[gnostic]

And your point was--?

An ice age is a period of long-term reduction in the temperature of Earth's surface and atmosphere, resulting in the presence or expansion of continental and polar ice sheets and alpine glaciers. Within a long-term ice age, individual pulses of cold climate are termed "glacial periods" (or alternatively "glacials" or "glaciations" or colloquially as "ice age"), and intermittent warm periods are called "interglacials". In the terminology of glaciology, ice age implies the presence of extensive ice sheets in both northern and southern hemispheres.[1] By this definition, we are in an interglacial period—the Holocene—of the ice age. The ice age began 2.6 million years ago at the start of the Pleistocene epoch, because the Greenland, Arctic, and Antarctic ice sheets still exist.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

I think subduction Zone is well aware of all this (about the Ice Age), as am I.

The point is that there was no single global flood, where water level reach its peak in 150 days, then vanished in another 150 days.

All the ice, from glaciers, icebergs and ice shelves that have melted so far, since the start of current interglacial, the Holocene, have only caused the sea level to rise by 125 metres.

That would have caused a lot of death, damages and destruction, but not people were living in highlands, and certainly not covered whole mountains.

As I have previously pointed out, people before the Bronze Age Canaanites and Phoenician people have built Neolithic settlement (the earliest being 7000 BCE) on where ancient Byblos is.

By 3000 BCE, it became a thriving town, that saw it gradually become a maritime power throughout 2nd millennium BCE, until Tyre took up the mantle.

My point is that throughout Byblos’ history, there are no archaeological and geological evidences that Byblos was ever destroyed by flood.

Likewise, Sidon was built on the coast, and it too show destruction by Genesis Flood. The only evidences of any destruction during ancient times, occurred in the 1st millennium Iron Age, when it was captured.

Regarding to those pictures you have posted up. They are indication that erosion occurred over thousands and tens of thousands of years. None of show sign of only ONE SINGLE MASSIVE FLOOD, as Genesis narrated.

Until you show actual dates to each layers of rocks in those that pinpoint Noah's Flood, you have basis of your claims they were all made in Noah's time.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It has everything to do with the flood of Noah as revealed in the Scriptures.

No, it doesn't. Separate flood events only refute the myth.

 

[The Anointed]

No, it doesn't. Separate flood events only refute the myth.

Although the article by Mark Bailey Posted December 15 1997, reveals that there were major events occurring around the world at that time, floods, Meteorite strikes, caused by a close encounter with a disintegrating comet, presumable causing catastrophic world-wide tsunami’ etc, and the fact that flood stories are found throughout the countries of the world, my post concerns the great flood in the middle east some 4,350 years ago, which decimated the known world of that day, which is not a myth my friend. But you are entitled to believe whatsoever you choose to believe..

 

[Subduction Zone]

Although the article by Mark Bailey Posted December 15 1997, reveals that there were major events occurring around the world at that time, floods, Meteorite strikes, caused by a close encounter with a disintegrating comet, presumable causing catastrophic world-wide tsunami’ etc, and the fact that flood stories are found throughout the countries of the world, my post concerns the great flood in the middle east some 4,350 years ago, which decimated the known world of that day, which is not a myth my friend. But you are entitled to believe whatsoever you choose to believe..

No, different floods at different times. The great flood in the Middle East would have only affected a small number of people. You only refuted the Bible myth.

 

[The Anointed]

No, different floods at different times. The great flood in the Middle East would have only affected a small number of people. You only refuted the Bible myth.

The flood around the Mediterranean sea and beyond the Euphrates, was the known civilized world of that day, and the only known country to have written records on clay tablets of that flood, which decimated their known world.

Who would believe that those who recorded the story of Noah, who built the ark in that area and who had no knowledge of other continents, and no means of Gathering animals such as Kangaroos from those other countries, was not referring, to the only world that they knew?

I do not refute the bible flood story my friend, I corroborate it.