How we know that there was no Flood of Noah.

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Ammonites are perhaps the most widely known fossil, possessing the typically ribbed spiral-form shell as pictured above. These creatures lived in the seas between 240 - 65 million years ago, when they became extinct along with the dinosaurs. The name 'ammonite' (usually lower-case) originates from the Greek Ram-horned god called Ammon. Ammonites belong to a group of predators known as cephalopods, which includes their living relatives the octopus, squid, cuttlefish and nautilus (see pictures below).
http://www.discoveringfossils.co.uk/ammonites.htm

That particular ammonite might have been from that time, but ammonites themselves are much older than that. They first appeared in the Devonian:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonoidea

" The earliest ammonites appear during the Devonian, and the last species died out during the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event."

The source that I first used, a very amateur one that was based upon searching the image you presented without a link, led to the 450 million year old claim, which was a bit high. But yours is far too young.

 

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This is your failing, not mine

Now now, you just did it again. How are people going to take your claim of being a Christian seriously if you act this way? I can and have supported my claims. You . . . not so much.

 

[james dixon]

That law is about more than just lying, which is the erroneous simplistic view that many Christians have.

Oh High One, thanks for your view

 

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Oh High One, thanks for your view

Just trying to help a person that does not understand his own faith. I used to be a Christian. Understanding the Bible is what led me to freedom from its errant claims. You seem to only use it to support your own prejudices.

 

[james dixon]

I can and have supported my claims.

Only when you are talking to yourself. Now sit back, take a deep breath and exhale slowly. Once done try and put your thoughts in a word form I can understand.

Ok?

 

[james dixon]

I used to be a Christian.

Is the Torah your new source of wisdom?

just asking
no animosity intended or implies

 

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Only when you are talking to yourself. Now sit back, take a deep breath and exhale slowly. Once done try and put your thoughts in a word form I can understand.

Ok?

I am not sure if I can simplify the conversation to that level. Perhaps you could try to "up your game" just a little bit.

First off try not to continually break the Ninth Commandment. As a Christian you should know better than that.

 

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Is the Torah your new source of wisdom?

just asking
no animosity intended or implies

Strange question. I would say no. Do you have something that supports this idea?

 

[james dixon]

You mean a "sigh of relief"?

Thank you---
my ignorance is showing
again, thanks

 

[james dixon]

Strange question. I would say no. Do you have something that supports this idea?

No, I am just throwing things on the wall to see what sticks.

You must have some faith and/or religious background or you wouldn't be here in the first place.

or so it seems

 

[james dixon]

First off try not to continually break the Ninth Commandment.

As a professed non-Christian I am surprised that you even know that there is a Ninth Commandment?

 

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No, I am just throwing things on the wall to see what sticks.

You must have some faith and/or religious background or you wouldn't be here in the first place.

or so it seems

No, faith is a belief when one has no evidence. It is a weakness and not a strength. I try to avoid such, though I am not perfect.

 

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As a professed non-Christian I am surprised that you even know that there is a Ninth Commandment?

How many times do I have to explain that I used to be a Christian. Ex-Christians understand the Bible better than most Christians. It is quite often why they became atheists. In the same sense if you want to learn the flaws in Islam you go to a person that used to be a Muslim.

 

[james dixon]

if you want to learn the flaws in Islam you go to a person that used to be a Muslim.

Wrong, that would be the only person I would not consult with. Same goes for Christianity. One who rejects it is not one I care to believe anything he/she may say on the subject. Which insadently includes you.

It has been proven that there have been great floods in the past.
The bible speaks of a great flood.

What else is there left to say?

 

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Wrong, that would be the only person I would not consult with. Same goes for Christianity. One who rejects it is not one I care to believe anything he/she may say on the subject. Which insadently includes you.

It has been proven that there have been great floods in the past.
The bible speaks of a great flood.

What else is there left to say?

That is your error. Those that reject an idea often do so for very good reasons. But then deep down inside you appear to know that you are wrong.

And yes, there have been large scale floods in the past, but they are orders of magnitude smaller than the Biblical flood. Those are in fact all evidence against the flood myth. You should learn the nature of evidence. Those floods occurred at different times in different places. A worldwide flood would have occurred simultaneously. Those floods are much smaller than the Genesis flood. The evidence of smaller weaker floods should have been "over written" by a more recent larger flood.

You are merely grabbing unrelated facts that refute your idea. If you looked at those facts a bit more deeply, when they happened, how they happened, you would understand that they do not support the global flood myth.

 

[james dixon]

How many times do I have to explain,,,,,,,,,,

Lets get back to the topic here. Sea shells found on Mount Everest; do explain this.

 

[james dixon]

A worldwide flood would have occurred simultaneously.

The bible does not state that the flood mentioned was a "world wide" flood.

 

[james dixon]

And yes, there have been large scale floods in the past,

Case closed.

it is time to move on.

 

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Lets get back to the topic here. Sea shells found on Mount Everest; do explain this.

I already did. Once again, ancient deposits on a shallow sea floor. Slow movement of plates causing orogeny (mountain building). The growth of mountains becomes even more extreme when two continental parts of the plates collide. That uplifted the ancient sea floor which had turned into solid rock long before that.

 

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The bible does not state that the flood mentioned was a "world wide" flood.

What? Have you not read you Bible? Which version do you prefer? I will quote the verses for you that tell you that this is what happened. And if it was not worldwide how did the human population alone get reduced to a family of eight?