Huge gap between humans and animals

[ecco]

I didn't realize that the dinosaurs inhabited the planet for such a longer period than us...

You didn't? I thought that was taught by sixth grade.

And the environment killed them off... hmmm.

More specifically, a major change in the environment.

 

[ecco]

nay......the lesser forms that can tolerate the polluted planet will evolve

No need to evolve very much, just look at the roaches.

 

[Cooky]

Assuming, for the sake of discussion, that humans are unique...what do you believe to be the cause of our uniqueness?

Well, we can Express ourselves verbally and with signs and gestures. Nothing else can do that as good as us. In fact, we became so good at it, we can even translate it into mathematics. But we've gone much further.

As for the cause? It's the destiny of life. We are like the diamonds of life -life completely refined.

Our DNA could be pre-programmed to allow it. Could be all DNA is, it's just that certain sequences over time need to initiate it. Without the correct order and without the time, it just won't happen.

 

[Cooky]

I don't believe in random mutation, since 6 different species developed "flight" completely separate and unrelated to one another.

...That's not random to me. What are the odds?

 

[Prestor John]

No, God doesn't have children, We are unique creation of God but still we're kind of animals.

Agree to disagree.

My belief that the human family of Adam are the literal children of God comes from the Bible, other scriptures, modern-day prophets and the testimony of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Prestor John]

You forgot to qualify your comments with "IMHO" or "In the opinion of the Church of Latter Day Saints".

Everyone is free to share their opinion without the use of such qualifiers.

 

[FearGod]

Like I said... it took WORK. Early people were probably a lot less likely to cooperate, and instead lived together in relatively small groups. These groups wouldn't have necessarily thought it was worth it to sit down and develop complex communication methods - when they could get by with what they had. But generation after generation, things were added, and as larger groups got together it necessitated people creating these mass-communication methods - and because there were so many to do the main work of surviving in such large groups, it left time for the thinkers to sit down and do the more abstract work like craft language.

How do you think it worked? Magic? You think God poofed knowledge of reading/writing into our minds 5,000 years ago? Is that what you're getting at? If so... then why not just come out and say it?.

Not magic, our brains and our bodies were designed differently.
if there was no plan and no design, then it was magic or the random mutations.

You don't know that there was a maker. I don't know that there wasn't. But with what we are presented as the facts and reality of our existence, there being a "maker" seems far less likely to me. So I choose not to believe. There are things that could change my mind - but those things don't currently happen or exist. And I'm extremely confident that they never will.

Actually believing or thinking that there's a designer, doesn't mean that you should believe about religion.

 

[FearGod]

Agree to disagree.

My belief that the human family of Adam are the literal children of God comes from the Bible, other scriptures, modern-day prophets and the testimony of the Holy Spirit.

We were created by God similar to any other creation of God.

 

[Prestor John]

We were created by God similar to any other creation of God.

Not according to the scriptures.

God created Man in His own image.

God gave Man dominion over the Earth and all other creations.

God breathed into Man making him a "living soul".

God gave to Man specific commandments regarding Life and Knowledge.

God allowed Man the ability to gain the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

This Knowledge made Man like unto God.

God gave Man the covenant of marriage and the Gospel plan of redemption, salvation and eventual exaltation.

None of these things were done or given to any other creation of God.

Only to Man, His children. His sons and His daughters.

 

[FearGod]

Not according to the scriptures.

God created Man in His own image.

God gave Man dominion over the Earth and all other creations.

God breathed into Man making him a "living soul".

God gave to Man specific commandments regarding Life and Knowledge.

God allowed Man the ability to gain the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

This Knowledge made Man like unto God.

God gave Man the covenant of marriage and the Gospel plan of redemption, salvation and eventual exaltation.

None of these things were done or given to any other creation of God.

Only to Man, His children. His sons and His daughters.

And what about angels, are they children of God?
What about Satan, is he God's child?

 

[viole]

Are we lucky that we aren't be eaten similar to the alive caterpillar,
Do you really believe it's all about luck? unlucky the caterpillars

Luck? We all die too. Like the caterpillars.

Have you forgotten that?

Oh wait. Silly me. I am the one who forgot.

We are much better off. We will meet Jesus. Or is it Apollo? Allah , maybe. No, wait, I heard it is Genesh. Or was that the great Juju at the bottom of the sea?

Ciao

- viole

 

[FearGod]

Luck? We all die too. Like the caterpillars.

Have you forgotten that?

Oh wait. Silly me. I am the one who forgot.

We are much better off. We will meet Jesus. Or is it Apollo? Allah , maybe. No, wait, I heard it is Genesh. Or was that the great Juju at the bottom of the sea?

Ciao

- viole

Are we alike? are all humans good beings?
Animals are alike, they kill to eat and to live and some eat grass, all are similar.
You think that bad people will escape regardless of their deeds on earth and
that isn't fair, so let it be there'll be life after or there isn't, I don't care since
me myself I don't do bad deeds, I don't drink alcohol, I don't like pork and
I am living a happy life.

 

[viole]

Are we alike? are all humans good beings?
Animals are alike, they kill to eat and to live and some eat grass, all are similar.
You think that bad people will escape regardless of their deeds on earth and
that isn't fair, so let it be there'll be life after or there isn't, I don't care since
me myself I don't do bad deeds, I don't drink alcohol, I don't like pork and
I am living a happy life.

Oh yes, we do not kill to eat. I would die without my daily salami. So, for me a happy life would be impossible without huge amounts of pork. I even eat it at breakfast.

You seem to indicate that eating pork is a bad deed. Are you sure? Why is that?

Ciao

- viole

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Not magic, our brains and our bodies were designed differently.

We'll pretend that by "designed" you mean the culmination of all processes that led to there being human beings - and not necessarily that a "god" or intelligence designed and created man - because you can't know this as fact. No one can.

And a human being different than other animals means absolutely nothing. A duck-billed platypus is also different from all other animals. So what? What would you say that proves? Again that "god did it?" But to the real point - was the platypus designed with a specific purpose or "destiny" in mind? That's what you keep saying about humans. So why wouldn't the same hold true for all animals/life that is "different?" In other words... how can we be "special" and "better" because we're "different" when EVERYTHING is "different?" It makes no sense.

if there was no plan and no design, then it was magic or the random mutations.

This is one of the dumbest things I have encountered here. "Then it was magic" - just stop. Proof that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. The concepts behind evolution apparently still elude you almost entirely.

Actually believing or thinking that there's a designer, doesn't mean that you should believe about religion.

You don't have to worry about me on either score, friend. My sincere belief is that ALL of it belongs in the toilet.

 

[FearGod]

Oh yes, we do not kill to eat. I would die without my daily salami. So, for me a happy life would be impossible without huge amounts of pork. I even eat it at breakfast.

You seem to indicate that eating pork is a bad deed. Are you sure? Why is that?

Ciao

- viole

I didn't say it's a bad deed to kill an animal for food, and I didn't say eating pork is a bad deed.

 

[viole]

I didn't say it's a bad deed to kill an animal for food, and I didn't say eating pork is a bad deed.

Lucky me. What is better than a pork Wienerschnitzel with a huge beer?
It would be suboptimal to spend all eternity in hell because of that taste of mine.

Ciao

- viole

 

[FearGod]

We'll pretend that by "designed" you mean the culmination of all processes that led to there being human beings - and not necessarily that a "god" or intelligence designed and created man - because you can't know this as fact. No one can.

And a human being different than other animals means absolutely nothing. A duck-billed platypus is also different from all other animals. So what? What would you say that proves? Again that "god did it?" But to the real point - was the platypus designed with a specific purpose or "destiny" in mind? That's what you keep saying about humans. So why wouldn't the same hold true for all animals/life that is "different?" In other words... how can we be "special" and "better" because we're "different" when EVERYTHING is "different?" It makes no sense.

I can't help you if you can't see how unique the human being is compared to the rest
of the animals, by the way you can include the camel if you wish as a unique animal,
what about the turtle, regardless of the animals that you try to compare with humans,
all your attempts are silly ones.

This is one of the dumbest things I have encountered here. "Then it was magic" - just stop. Proof that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. The concepts behind evolution apparently still elude you almost entirely.

Actually everything to you looks dumb because you have hard time to understand anything,
good that you can write.

You don't have to worry about me on either score, friend. My sincere belief is that ALL of it belongs in the toilet.

I don't care about you.

 

[FearGod]

Lucky me. What is better than a pork Wienerschnitzel with a huge beer?
It would be suboptimal to spend all eternity in hell because of that taste of mine.

Ciao

- viole

Did you see how unique you're? did you ever see an animal eating Wienerschnitzel
and drinking beer?

 

[viole]

Did you see how unique you're? did you ever see an animal eating Wienerschnitzel
and drinking beer?

Have you seen any human eating zooklampton?

According to your logic then whales should be equally unique. Do you think God created the Universe for marine mammals?

Ciao

- viole

 

[FearGod]

Have you seen any human eating zooklampton?

According to your logic then whales should be equally unique. Do you think God created the Universe for marine mammals?

Ciao

- viole

What's zooklampton ?