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Huge gap between humans and animals

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Was you something else other than human? if your father was a monkey
and you came as a human then I'll agree that you have been evolved, but
of you came from a human mother and a human father and you yourself
are a human then no evolution in the process, it's a creation, you were
created by the designer and not by the mindless stones.
Once again, you can't refute that which you do not understand.

Right now you are not talking about evolution.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Once again, you can't refute that which you do not understand.

Right now you are not talking about evolution.

You said that man wasn't created, I said, you were created by a process
starting from the fusion of sperm and egg, you weren't evolved.

Explain how I'm wrong
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Atheist are really deceivers, they even refuse to accept the fact that humans
are great creatures compared to other animals, only to refute that there
was a plan for humans to come to this earth, amazing:rolleyes:
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You said that man wasn't created, I said, you were created by a process
starting from the fusion of sperm and egg, you weren't evolved.

Explain how I'm wrong
You are conflating what happens on an individual level with what occurs at a species level. It also appears that you are trying to use an equivocation fallacy. Can you find a more appropriate term for "created"?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Atheist are really deceivers, they even refuse to accept the fact that humans
are great creatures compared to other animals, only to refute that there
was a plan for humans to come to this earth, amazing:rolleyes:
You need to support that claim. And let's not call others "deceivers" .
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
You are conflating what happens on an individual level with what occurs at a species level. It also appears that you are trying to use an equivocation fallacy. Can you find a more appropriate term for "created"?

I'm talking about facts which is observed, you were created from the fusion of sperm and egg,
How I'm wrong?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'm talking about facts which is observed, you were created from the fusion of sperm and egg,
How I'm wrong?
You are wrong for using a prejudicial term. That was at best an error on your part. Do you understand this?

Second, what you are describing is not evolution so it has no relevance to the thread. Do you understand this?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
You are wrong for using a prejudicial term. That was at best an error on your part. Do you understand this?

Second, what you are describing is not evolution so it has no relevance to the thread. Do you understand this?

Create is a word that is used to mean making something new, it isn't only for God,
such as creating new company, creating jobs....etc.

You're a creation, you're a different person, you weren't existing before being
created in the womb.

The thread title is in the creation vs evolution section and it's related to our discussion.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Create is a word that is used to mean making something new, it isn't only for God,
such as creating new company, creating jobs....etc.

You're a creation, you're a different person, you weren't existing before being
created in the womb.

The thread title is in the creation vs evolution section and it's related to our discussion.
Yes, but in an evolution debate the word create is highly prejudicial and should be limited in its use.

I will take away my objection if you admit to being a monkey.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
And you as an individual, was you evolved or born?

Those are not exclusive possibilities. I was born. And I evolved as a member of my species, which is evolving.

As for their being a 'gap' between humans and other animals, I like the fact that we can do abstract thinking. But that doesn't mean other animals can't do it at all. It just means we're better at it than the others. We are an outlier, but on the same continuum.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
You said that man wasn't created, I said, you were created by a process
starting from the fusion of sperm and egg, you weren't evolved.

Explain how I'm wrong

You are wrong in thinking those possibilities are mutually exclusive. Yes, we are all born as members of our species. And yes, the population of humans has evolved. Mankind was not created: there was no prior plan to form humans. I was not created in the sense of someone having a prior plan to make me and putting me together piece by piece. Instead, my parents had sex. That is part of the process by which I was made. But I also was evolved: I am the result of a long line of adaptations and changes that have happened over many million years.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Those are not exclusive possibilities. I was born. And I evolved as a member of my species, which is evolving.

As for their being a 'gap' between humans and other animals, I like the fact that we can do abstract thinking. But that doesn't mean other animals can't do it at all. It just means we're better at it than the others. We are an outlier, but on the same continuum.
This is one of the things that those afraid of being associated with animals cannot comprehend. Yes our thinking is advanced but the basic neuronal network is present in other animals and even through convergent evolution. Yes the cheetah is the fastest land mammal but that does not make it do unique, yes the falcon is the fastest bird and yet it is still an animal. Other animals have complex cognitive abilities not to our extent but give them time - that is if we allow them to without destroying the world they live in. It seems to be fear that they are not so different that drives them to deny the obvious.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
You aren't able to see how humans are a unique creatures and you won't be able to,
read my signatures please.
I have and you fit them perfectly. You still can't or won't answer my comparison between jellyfish, chimpanzee and human because the answer will show your ideas to be false based on limited humancentric view point which is based on false premise. The reality is so clear yet its answer seems to terrify you so much that you take an absolute stance no matter what is real.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Those are not exclusive possibilities. I was born. And I evolved as a member of my species, which is evolving.

Was you as an individual evolved or you're similar to your parents and other humans?
why you just refuse to accept such a simple fact, evolution have taken place millions
of years, yes your father and your mother have sex, and this is the first step to make(create)
a child, then the process needs a fusion between the sperm and the egg which then make
the final product, a new child.

As for their being a 'gap' between humans and other animals, I like the fact that we can do abstract thinking. But that doesn't mean other animals can't do it at all. It just means we're better at it than the others. We are an outlier, but on the same continuum.

The gap is huge, not a little.
 
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