"Humans are born as atheists"

[paarsurrey]

The question was meaningless to me when I was atheist and still is. Somewhere along the way we became humans we are today, maybe hundred thousand or a few hundred thousand years ago. Religions came later.

Religion existed when the stage came when humans (to be) were known to be human and called as such, in that sense humans believed in G-d as soon as they became human.
Regards

 

[First Baseman]

Religion existed when the stage came when humans (to be) were known to be human and called as such, in that sense humans believed in G-d as soon as they became human.
Regards

Sir, why do you post G-d instead of God?

 

[paarsurrey]

But I never believed in any gods. Why is that?

One denied G-d because human have a choice, to believe or not to believe, till the time one is held accountable, as there is no compulsion in religion.
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[viole]

Exactly. Disbelief is the default position.

I am not sure. It is like saying that crying all night and throwing spaghetti sauce all over the place is the default position.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Shadow Wolf]

South America and Africa to deliver those poor savages from their unknowing sin into His graces!

"Poor savages?" What a fine way to insult and belittle entire swaths of people.

 

[paarsurrey]

Sir, why do you post G-d instead of God?

The Christian people who follow the ideology of Paul, believe Jesus a god, while Jesus himself did not believe that he was god, he could not as he was a Jew. Just to differentiate from them I write G-d, omitting the vowel.
Thanks and regards

 

[viole]

Sir, why do you post G-d instead of God?

It is a form of respect for God. Sorry, G-d. It comes from Judaism, I think.

It seems, G-d does not like "O"s, but He is quite fond of "-"s. The question is how He is addressed during prayers. ghwd?

Ciao

- viole

 

[paarsurrey]

I am not sure. It is like saying that crying all night and throwing spaghetti sauce all over the place is the default position.
Ciao
- viole

Beautiful!
Confusion is never a default position.
Regards

 

[Grumpuss]

"Poor savages?" What a fine way to insult and belittle entire swaths of people.

Human sacrifice, ritual rape, slavery... are these cultural aspects you seek to promote and/or introduce into civilized society?

Not everything European conquerors and missionaries did on those continents was good, but history does credit them with modernizing and uplifting those peoples.

 

[Grumpuss]

The Christian people who follow the ideology of Paul, believe Jesus a god, while Jesus himself did not believe that he was god, he could not as he was a Jew. Just to differentiate from them I write G-d, omitting the vowel.
Thanks and regards

And God appreciates it and loves you for it, just as He appreciates it and loves those who fail to omit it.

 

[paarsurrey]

No, your mother and father had to teach you about God.
If you were taken away from your mother and father at birth, and a mother and father from a different religion adopted you, you'd have a different God and you'd be equally convinced that that was the real God.

That is a natural , like they told me that they were my father and mother. How did you know that they were your father and mother? Didn't one believe/d in them and doubted them?
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[sojourner]

This doesn't make sense.

You don't believe in countess things/ideas/creeds that you have never heard of precisely because you have never heard of them.

No, I don't "not believe in them." I simply don't know of them, so I don't know whether I might believe in them or not. Ignorance and disbelief are two completely different things.

 

[paarsurrey]

And I'm saying that theistic belief is a higher cognitive function than babies are capable of.

Natural is very natural. Belief in G-d is very natural, not believing in G-d is artificial or man-made.
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[Jumi]

You denied G-d because human have a choice, to believe or not to believe, till the time one is held accountable, as there is no compulsion in religion.

I haven't denied anything that doesn't make sense to me and no proof. No decisions here. Just being what I am.

 

[Jumi]

Natural is very natural. Belief in G-d is very natural, not believing in G-d is artificial or man-made.

Not believing in gods or religions is natural.

 

[Grumpuss]

Not believing in gods or religions is natural.

This is rapidly decaying into a greater theological debate, which can sometimes get quickly nasty. May I suggest we take a break for awhile and pray on it?

 

[viole]

This is rapidly decaying into a greater theological debate, which can sometimes get quickly nasty. May I suggest we take a break for awhile and pray on it?

~ praying ~

Ciao

- viole

 

[sojourner]

The Christian people who follow the ideology of Paul, believe Jesus a god, while Jesus himself did not believe that he was god, he could not as he was a Jew. Just to differentiate from them I write G-d, omitting the vowel.
Thanks and regards

The funny part is that Paul is older than the gospels. Therefore, the concept that "Jesus is God" is older than the concept that "Jesus is not God." so, it's quite likely (since Paul was a Jew) that Jesus-as-God was a known concept while Jesus was alive.

 

[sojourner]

Natural is very natural. Belief in G-d is very natural, not believing in G-d is artificial or man-made.
Regards

It may be natural, but it's also developmental, meaning that, while it may be natural for people to eat fruit, they are only able to do so when they're old enough. Higher cognitive functions are the same way, they're natural, yes, but that ability takes a while to develop.

 

[sojourner]

Natural is very natural. Belief in G-d is very natural, not believing in G-d is artificial or man-made.
Regards

Not so. Both are cognitive decisions, or stances, one makes as a result of making sense of the world around us. Both positions are as natural as the other.