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Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes

McBell

Unbound
Dear Riverwolf, Science is "willingly ignorant" of what happened on Adam's world, and I am posting the BEST and ONLY evidence available. Is it my fault today's scientists are so uninformed? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Bold empty claims in a sad attempt at substantiating your previous bold empty claims.

Seems you really need to look up the definition of the word "evidence"...
 

McBell

Unbound
Dear FA, Science is "willingly ignorant" of what happened on Adam's world, and I am posting the BEST and ONLY evidence available. Is it my fault today's scientists are so uninformed? You must remember that God knows EVERYthing but today's scientists are confused by their own False Theories such as the ToE. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

One wonders who it is you are trying to convince, us or yourself?
 

McBell

Unbound
Dear Riverwolf, It is when it AGREES in every way with EVERY discovery of Science and History. I have posted such and NO Evol has been able to refute me. I have also posted the ONLY empirical evidence which totaly REFUTES the False ToE HISTORICALLY, and NO one has offered ANY evidence which contradicts my postings, Historically. Here is the evidence AGAIN:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

What is shows is that the FIRST modern Humans arrived in the mountains of Ararat and the Valleys of Northern Mesopotamia some 10k years ago, and the FIRST Human farming began and cities were built by and Named by Noah's great grandsons in Gen 10:10....and HISTORY agrees, since some of those FIRST cities are STILL there. IF you don't believe me, name an Older Human city on this Earth.

The False ToE falsely teaches that Humans became Fully Human 195k years ago. This is provably FALSE since these prehistoric people NEVER grew a crop nor built a city until AFTER God tells us Noah arrived and brought Human civilization to this Planet of the descendants of the common ancestor of Apes. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

The problem here is that we are not in your fantasy world.
No.
Here in the real world science and history does not agree 100% with the Bible.
Not even with your Calvinized version.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
What is your evidence for this?

Do we now have two crackpots on this thread?

You would be one of them?

And you are now about to contend we humans never diverged from the rest of the animal kingdom?

and if you do....it was not a note worthy item?

And the text of Chapter Two is completely impossible?

No selection of a specimen?....ideal living conditions for that specimen?....
anesthesia?.....surgery?.....cloning?.....genetic manipulation?.....

None of this is possible?

I find the text remarkable as it reveals such things long before we 'humans'....
could consider such possibilities.

And yet, 'humans' did believe.

What's holding you back?
Fear of Something Greater?....
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
Originally Posted by Aman777
Dear FP, No, but unlike the False ToE, my view agrees with every discovery of Science and History, therefore, it's the Same Truth as that of Science, no matter how you look at it. The False ToE is nothing more than an incomplete, untrue, false assumption, of men who are afraid of their certain righteous Judgment. God Bless you.



fantôme profane;3913716 said:
Ah, but ya just said that science does no agree wit ya. Cus science is "willfully ignorant". So wat ya sayin now is your view agreess wit the "willfully ignorant". Tis dat it?

Dear FP, It's because Science is True EXCEPT for it's belief that the False ToE is true. Scientists are "willingly ignorant" that Adam's world, the Kosmos that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in the Flood and that our Cosmos, the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW will be burned. 2Pe 3:3-7 God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Assuming that by "False ToE" you mean the Theory of Evolution that biology discovered and expressed, let me ask you one thing or two.


unlike the False ToE, my view agrees with every discovery of Science and History,

Tell us what in the Theory of Evolution disagrees with which discovery of science and/or history, then.

Or admit that you are lying, if you prefer (which you probably should).


(...)

Dear FP, It's because Science is True EXCEPT for it's belief that the False ToE is true.

That would be quite a trick; do you realize how many connected areas to Evolution exist? How many ways of finding out that it is false (if it were) there are?
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
Assuming that by "False ToE" you mean the Theory of Evolution that biology discovered and expressed, let me ask you one thing or two.

Tell us what in the Theory of Evolution disagrees with which discovery of science and/or history, then.

Or admit that you are lying, if you prefer (which you probably should).

Dear Luis, The ToE is a Half/Truth. Satan uses this fact all the time. In the case of Evolution, the measurement of the changes in the allele frequency over time within a population is TRUE since it is NOTHING more than changes with His (God's) kinds.

The False part of the ToE is that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. There is NO evidence for this and it is easily refuted. God and HISTORY agree that modern Human civilization, on this Planet, began some 10k years ago, as the last Ice Age withdrew. The evidence of Farming, City Building, Math, and Writing began in Northern Mesopotamia beginning some 10k years ago. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Did you Notice the Big Lake between Mt Ararat and the center of the Fertile Crescent? It's Lake Van, Turkey and it's 5k feet above the Valleys of Northern Mesopotamia. What a wonderful place to dock a 450 foot Ark, so that the FIRST Humans could walk down into the Valleys of the Cradle of Human Civilization on this Planet, and begin Farming.

That would be quite a trick; do you realize how many connected areas to Evolution exist? How many ways of finding out that it is false (if it were) there are?

EVERY living creature that moves, came forth from the Water, on the 5th Day Gen 1:21 and Science AGREES and dates the SAME event as beginning some 3.7 Billion years ago, in man's time. The sons of God (prehistoric people) diverged from Chimps some 6 Million years ago, but they were NOT Humans because they did NOT have Adam's high level of intelligence which is like God's. Gen 3:22 They were brought forth from the water just like any other animal.

Adam was made some 10 Billion years earlier on the first Earth, which was totally destroyed in the Flood. He was the ONLY being made on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 and therefore, could NOT have evolved from Apes because the FIRST Ape was not made for Billions of years AFTER Adam was formed of the dust of the ground. That's God's Truth. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
I'm wondering, does Aman belong to some group, are these views held in common, or has he gone off the deep end all on his own, poor thing?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Originally Posted by Aman777
Dear FP, No, but unlike the False ToE, my view agrees with every discovery of Science and History, therefore, it's the Same Truth as that of Science, no matter how you look at it. The False ToE is nothing more than an incomplete, untrue, false assumption, of men who are afraid of their certain righteous Judgment. God Bless you.





Dear FP, It's because Science is True EXCEPT for it's belief that the False ToE is true. Scientists are "willingly ignorant" that Adam's world, the Kosmos that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in the Flood and that our Cosmos, the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW will be burned. 2Pe 3:3-7 God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
So science agrees with you, except when science doesn't agree with you.

Just to make it clear. Your claim that your position is supported by science has been refuted.

And your claim that you can't be refuted has also been refuted.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Dear Riverwolf, Correction: The Bible does NOT agree with YOUR interpretation. Does this mean that you are smarter than God? God tells us of TWO creations of mankind.

Are you smarter than Odin?

I've never seen any God say any such thing. I do not believe the Bible to be the word of any God, any more than any other text. It was written by men. And when it comes to knowledge of humanity's evolution, I AM more informed than the people who wrote it.

False, since History records that for 99% of the time since prehistoric people diverged from Chimps, they remained just like the Animals they were. Just because their bones looked like Humans, does NOT mean that they were Humans. Only in the last 10k years do we find evidence of modern Humans.
I think you have some catching up to do.

There are two prevailing theories about full behavioral modernity: some say it was sudden, some say it was gradual. I'm in the gradual camp, myself, since there's indications that even Neanderthals had basic religious behavior.

The first Human, Adam, FARMED with NO evolution. Adam's son Cain, built the first Human city on Adam's world. Read Genesis 4 and you will recognize that difference between stick drawings and the Technology of the first Humans, who descended from Cain and inherited the unique Human intelligence of Adam, who was made with the highest form of intelligence, which is like God's. Gen 3:22
I've read Genesis 4. All I saw was an old campfire story.

It's really hard to refute this view since it relies on the AGREEMENT of Scripture, Science, and History. I find that YOUR views are only part Truths.
There is no agreement with science and history that you've provided. Only scripture. And scripture doesn't count.
 
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Aman777

Bible Believer
Are you smarter than Odin?

I've never seen any God say any such thing. I do not believe the Bible to be the word of any God, any more than any other text. It was written by men. And when it comes to knowledge of humanity's evolution, I AM more informed than the people who wrote it.

I think you have some catching up to do.

There are two prevailing theories about full behavioral modernity: some say it was sudden, some say it was gradual. I'm in the gradual camp, myself, since there's indications that even Neanderthals had basic religious behavior.

I've read Genesis 4. All I saw was an old campfire story.

There is no agreement with science and history that you've provided. Only scripture. And scripture doesn't count.

Dear Riverwolf, There is NO Odin and it doesn't matter if you agree with God or Not, except to you and your future. The False ToE speculates, without ANY evidence, that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, but Genesis 4 shows that the descendants of Cain inherited the superior intelligence of Adam, on the first world, and the SAME Human traits appear on our Planet, AFTER Noah arrives some 10k years ago. Here is the empirical evidence of Noah's arrival which brought Adam's Human intelligence to our Planet of preshistoric people, who evolved from the Water EXACTLY as God tells us in Gen 1:21. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Your idea that Magical Evolution produced Human intelligence in Apes is False, and is refuted by God's Holy Word, which shows that ONLY God knew these facts 3k years ago. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

Aman777

Bible Believer
Aman, come back to me when you want to talk seriously.

Dear Luis, Ever heard the song about Old Buddha? It was very popular in the 80s. Here is some of the song. Old Buddha was a man, and I'm sure that he meant well, but I pray for his disciples lest they wind up in Hell. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman
 

Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Dear Riverwolf, There is NO Odin and it doesn't matter if you agree with God or Not, except to you and your future. The False ToE speculates, without ANY evidence, that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, but Genesis 4 shows that the descendants of Cain inherited the superior intelligence of Adam, on the first world, and the SAME Human traits appear on our Planet, AFTER Noah arrives some 10k years ago. Here is the empirical evidence of Noah's arrival which brought Adam's Human intelligence to our Planet of preshistoric people, who evolved from the Water EXACTLY as God tells us in Gen 1:21. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Your idea that Magical Evolution produced Human intelligence in Apes is False, and is refuted by God's Holy Word, which shows that ONLY God knew these facts 3k years ago. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

You know I think I agree with you. I mean the bible clearly states that the earth has 4 corners and the only evidence I have seen is that the sun goes round the earth. I mean if the earth were really rotating that fast or going round the sun that fast wouldn't we feel it? In fact if we were spinning that fact I could only imagine that we would simply fly off the earth into space.

And the geocentric universe does fit best with the biblical version.
 

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
Dear Luis, Ever heard the song about Old Buddha? It was very popular in the 80s. Here is some of the song. Old Buddha was a man, and I'm sure that he meant well, but I pray for his disciples lest they wind up in Hell. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Evolution is a type of change that occurs over long periods of time. If God made everything perfectly as it should be, why is there so much change? Do you refute that creatures can change over long periods of time? It is a simple fact that everything changes over time. You cannot refute this.


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