Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes

[lewisnotmiller]

I'm not being cold. Someone who pretends to be a creationist to bait others into an argument is trolling. That's the definition of the word. Putting trolls on ignore is a public service, like picking up your dog poop.

*sighs*
So first I'm wrong for not putting trolls on ignore, and then I'm wrong for not scooping up my dog poop.
Next you'll be telling me pants aren't optional, and beating your child shouldn't be done in public.

Damn pretty people, always with the rules.

 

[RitalinOhD]

Dear Ritalin, Do you think it's as bad as throwing Holy Water on a Vampire? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Vampires are about as provable as your god.

Although, Vlad the Impaler was pretty gruesome. And there's actual proof he existed.

So Vampires may have one up on your god of choice.

 

[McBell]

Dear Mestemi, It's because I know the end of the story when the Scoffers/Evols of last days, before Christ returns, will be "willingly ignorant" of the Truth. The argument at the end of time will be between these Scoffers and Bible believers who can clearly show that Humans were made long before ANY other living creature, on another world, which was totally dissolved in the Flood. ll Peter 3:3-7

This Fact is the Truth scripturally, scientifically, and historically and NO Evol can refute it, including you. If you could, you would have done it long ago, ole buddy, ole pal. Do you think of yourself as a Scoffer of the last days? God Bless you.

in Love,
Aman

If your particular view really is the "Truth scientifically, historically, and scripturally" why is it you present from only one?
Where is the science you claim supports your view?
where is the history you claim supports your view?

You present all manner of scripture, but seem completely lost when it comes to the science and history you claim supports your view.


Fact of the matter is that although you talk a really big game, you present nothing but your own personal interpretations of the scriptures you claim support your sad empty threats.

 

[psychoslice]

Of course we evolved from whatever, we certainly didn't just magically appear out of nothing, that's just stupid.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Vampires are about as provable as your god.

Although, Vlad the Impaler was pretty gruesome. And there's actual proof he existed.

So Vampires may have one up on your god of choice.

How effective do ya reckon throwing holy water at ol' Vlad the Impaler would have been...

:dracula:

 

[RitalinOhD]

How effective do ya reckon throwing holy water at ol' Vlad the Impaler would have been...

:dracula:

Probably would have ****** him off I imagine.

 

[Aman777]

If your particular view really is the "Truth scientifically, historically, and scripturally" why is it you present from only one?
Where is the science you claim supports your view?

Dear Mestemia, Science teaches that Humans evolve from other Humans. The ToE falsely teaches that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. When you pin them down, they show that the common ancestor of every living creature evolved from the FIRST bacteria, which appeared some 3.7 Billion years ago, in the WATER on our Earth. This agrees with Gen 1:21 which shows that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from the WATER on Day 5. Science and Scripture AGREE.

Evols have NO scientific evidence for their "belief" that Humans evolved from Apes since Scientists cannot tell us the difference between Human and animal intelligence TODAY, but Evols claim they can see this event happening hundreds of thousands of years ago. It's pure Hokem, Snake oil, and Fantasy.

where is the history you claim supports your view?

Scripture shows that Adam farmed with NO evolution and Cain's descendants built cities, farmed, made musical instruments and had technology like smelting with little or no evolution. Gen 4 Secular Empirical HISTORY, on our Planet, records the beginning of the evidence of these same traits EXACTLY where Noah arrived and dates the event at 10k years ago:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Human civilization on this Planet, including the cities which Noah's great grandsons built, AGREE with History and show that Humans did NOT evolve from Apes, but instead arrived on this Planet in the Ark. HISTORY and Scripture AGREE.

You present all manner of scripture, but seem completely lost when it comes to the science and history you claim supports your view.

Then promise that you won't run away before you explain the Map of the FIRST Human farming and City buiding (Civilization) which SUDDENLY appeared on our Earth in the last 1% of time since prehistoric man diverged from Chimps.

Fact of the matter is that although you talk a really big game, you present nothing but your own personal interpretations of the scriptures you claim support your sad empty threats.

The Empirical Evidence is above. Either explain it away or everyone will see that God's Truth is the Truth in EVERY way. This knowledge will help to destroy the Falsehoods which Evols are currently force teaching to our children in the Public Schools. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[RitalinOhD]

Dear Mestemia, Science teaches that Humans evolve from other Humans. The ToE falsely teaches that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. When you pin them down, they show that the common ancestor of every living creature evolved from the FIRST bacteria, which appeared some 3.7 Billion years ago, in the WATER on our Earth. This agrees with Gen 1:21 which shows that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from the WATER on Day 5. Science and Scripture AGREE.

Evols have NO scientific evidence for their "belief" that Humans evolved from Apes since Scientists cannot tell us the difference between Human and animal intelligence TODAY, but Evols claim they can see this event happening hundreds of thousands of years ago. It's pure Hokem, Snake oil, and Fantasy.



Scripture shows that Adam farmed with NO evolution and Cain's descendants built cities, farmed, made musical instruments and had technology like smelting with little or no evolution. Gen 4 Secular Empirical HISTORY, on our Planet, records the beginning of the evidence of these same traits EXACTLY where Noah arrived and dates the event at 10k years ago:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Human civilization on this Planet, including the cities which Noah's great grandsons built, AGREE with History and show that Humans did NOT evolve from Apes, but instead arrived on this Planet in the Ark. HISTORY and Scripture AGREE.



Then promise that you won't run away before you explain the Map of the FIRST Human farming and City buiding (Civilization) which SUDDENLY appeared on our Earth in the last 1% of time since prehistoric man diverged from Chimps.



The Empirical Evidence is above. Either explain it away or everyone will see that God's Truth is the Truth in EVERY way. This knowledge will help to destroy the Falsehoods which Evols are currently force teaching to our children in the Public Schools. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Do you actually believe this stuff? I have my doubts.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Dear Mestemia, Science teaches that Humans evolve from other Humans.

Well, that's technically correct, I guess...

The ToE falsely teaches that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. When you pin them down, they show that the common ancestor of every living creature evolved from the FIRST bacteria, which appeared some 3.7 Billion years ago, in the WATER on our Earth. This agrees with Gen 1:21 which shows that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from the WATER on Day 5. Science and Scripture AGREE.

Genesis 1:21 doesn't say that all life came "forth from the water". It simply states that on day 5 God created all the creatures and birds that LIVE in or around the water.

20 Then God said, "Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens." 21 God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth."…

Source: Genesis 1:21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that the Bible somehow meant that all life shares a common ancestor.

Evols have NO scientific evidence for their "belief" that Humans evolved from Apes since Scientists cannot tell us the difference between Human and animal intelligence TODAY, but Evols claim they can see this event happening hundreds of thousands of years ago. It's pure Hokem, Snake oil, and Fantasy.

Now you're just talking silly. Here is a website by the Smithsonian Institute that lists and explains all of the evidence of human and ape common ancestry:

Human Evolution Evidence | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

If you wish, you are free to specifically review and dispute the evidence at your leisure, but to boldly assert that there is NO evidence smacks of blatant dishonesty.

Scripture shows that Adam farmed with NO evolution and Cain's descendants built cities, farmed, made musical instruments and had technology like smelting with little or no evolution. Gen 4 Secular Empirical HISTORY, on our Planet, records the beginning of the evidence of these same traits EXACTLY where Noah arrived and dates the event at 10k years ago:

Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

Human civilization on this Planet, including the cities which Noah's great grandsons built, AGREE with History and show that Humans did NOT evolve from Apes, but instead arrived on this Planet in the Ark. HISTORY and Scripture AGREE.

I'm afraid if you're going to use terms like "hokem" and "snake oil" you may need to dial back a little on assertions such as these. There is absolutely no evidence of the ark, no evidence of any kind of global flood, and there is a wealth of evidence that suggests that human beings have been on this planet for far longer than 10,000 years. The oldest human fossils we have discovered have been dated back to around 195,000 years old.

Source: Oldest Human Fossils Identified

Until you can provide evidence for your assertions, and successful refutations of the facts that contradict them, your claims are baseless.

Then promise that you won't run away before you explain the Map of the FIRST Human farming and City buiding (Civilization) which SUDDENLY appeared on our Earth in the last 1% of time since prehistoric man diverged from Chimps.

You have provided no such thing. What you have provided is a map is of an archaeological site of what may be one of the earliest farming communities. There is no reason to suggest that this "suddenly" appeared. What's more, older agricultural sites have been discovered than the fertile crescent, such as this one in the Mediterranean which dates back to around 9,500BC:

The oldest farming village in the Mediterranean islands is discovered in Cyprus

The Empirical Evidence is above. Either explain it away or everyone will see that God's Truth is the Truth in EVERY way. This knowledge will help to destroy the Falsehoods which Evols are currently force teaching to our children in the Public Schools. God Bless you.

Done. Your empirical evidence has been explained away, now kindly do the same for the evidence of evolution provided for you in the websites. You may start with just one or two of the evidences to save time.

 

[Riverwolf]

Dear Mestemia, Science teaches that Humans evolve from other Humans.

More specifically, homo sapiens evolved from other hominids. We're cousins with homo neanderthalis, homo floresiensis, as well as potentially a few others not yet in the fossil record,as well as being more distant cousins with homo habilis, all of us sharing a common ancestor in homo erectus. Erectus evolved from earlier hominids, which are categorized by the ability to walk upright.

And it's not "science" that teaches this. For my ongoing quest to destroy the misconception that science is a singular entity, it's paleobiology that teaches this. It is one of the sciences.

Scripture shows

The Biblical canon is not history.

that Adam farmed with NO evolution and Cain's descendants built cities, farmed, made musical instruments and had technology like smelting with little or no evolution.

Actually, the oldest musical instruments ever found date to about 43,000 years ago: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-18196349

In any case, technological evolution, despite operating on a similar system to natural selection, is separate from biological evolution. Humans from 40,000 years ago were no more or less generally intelligent than us, and would have been perfectly capable of the technological feats we have today. They simply did not have the knowledge or the need to create/utilize them.

You wish us a blessing from your God, so allow me a blessing from mine.
Good Health and Harvest.

 

[Alceste]

Do you actually believe this stuff? I have my doubts.

I think this is a Poe.

 

[outhouse]

I think this is a Poe.

Has already admitted enjoying the reactions he/she gets.



Straight from landover Baptist probably.

 

[Aman777]

Well, that's technically correct, I guess...

Genesis 1:21 doesn't say that all life came "forth from the water". It simply states that on day 5 God created all the creatures and birds that LIVE in or around the water.

20 Then God said, "Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens." 21 God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth."…

Source: Genesis 1:21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that the Bible somehow meant that all life shares a common ancestor.

Dear ImmortalFlame, Your altered and paraphrased version of the original words written are confusing you. Here are the words from the KJV:

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after Their kind, and every winged fowl after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

Do you have any idea why this verse refers to "Their" kind and "His" kind?

Now you're just talking silly. Here is a website by the Smithsonian Institute that lists and explains all of the evidence of human and ape common ancestry:

Human Evolution Evidence | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

If you wish, you are free to specifically review and dispute the evidence at your leisure, but to boldly assert that there is NO evidence smacks of blatant dishonesty.

Not so, since the Smithsonian, like other scientists have Falsely assumed that Humans diverged from Chimps some 6 Billion years ago. Prehistoric man DID diverge from Chimps, but they were NOT Humans since they did NOT descend from Adam, the first Human. IOW, today's scientists have been CONFUSED by the False ToE. We know we live in the last days, because ll Peter 3:3-7 describes this argument in the last days. Evols will NOT believe that Adam's world was totally destroyed in the Flood.

I'm afraid if you're going to use terms like "hokem" and "snake oil" you may need to dial back a little on assertions such as these. There is absolutely no evidence of the ark, no evidence of any kind of global flood, and there is a wealth of evidence that suggests that human beings have been on this planet for far longer than 10,000 years. The oldest human fossils we have discovered have been dated back to around 195,000 years old.

Source: Oldest Human Fossils Identified

Until you can provide evidence for your assertions, and successful refutations of the facts that contradict them, your claims are baseless.

History and Science AGREE with Scripture, but NOT with the False Theory that Humans evolved from Apes, no matter how many Evols agree. Scientists have confused the sons of God (prehistoric man) with Humans but there is NO evidence of modern Humans on this Earth until AFTER Noah arrived some 10k + - years ago.

You have provided no such thing. What you have provided is a map is of an archaeological site of what may be one of the earliest farming communities. There is no reason to suggest that this "suddenly" appeared. What's more, older agricultural sites have been discovered than the fertile crescent, such as this one in the Mediterranean which dates back to around 9,500BC:

The oldest farming village in the Mediterranean islands is discovered in Cyprus

FROM THE SITE:>>Sedentary villagers of the Early Neolithic began cultivating wild grains in the Middle East in about 9500 BCE. Recent discoveries have shown that the island of Cyprus was visited by human groups during that period, but until now the earliest traces of cereal crops and the construction of villages did not predate 8400 BCE. The latest findings from the archaeological excavations of Klimonas indicate that organized communities were built in Cyprus between 9100 and 8600 BCE: the site has yielded the remnants of a half-buried mud brick communal building,

Perhaps you didn't notice the dating of the Map of the Fertile Crescent, which is just SW of where the Ark arrived, in the valleys of the mountains of Ararat, in Mesopotamia, the Cradle of Human civlization on this Planet. The dates your site states are in perfect agreement with the spread of Human farming from Babel, as shown in Scripture. Thanks for the confirmation.

Done. Your empirical evidence has been explained away, now kindly do the same for the evidence of evolution provided for you in the websites. You may start with just one or two of the evidences to save time.

Before you are tempted to take a Victory Lap, you should actually wait on the evidence instead of judging falsely as you start celebrating. It's YOUR evidence which confirms God's Truth in Scripture. Try again? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Skwim]

I think this is a Poe.

One can only hope so. The alternative, that they're serious postings, borders on the sorrowful.

 

[RitalinOhD]

I think this is a Poe.

Agreed.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Dear Readers, It is impossible for Humans to have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since Humans were made long before ANY other living creature. Adam, the common ancestor of ALL Humans was made the THIRD Day. Gen 2:4-7 Jesus made Adam of the dust of the ground BEFORE the first Stars of our Universe put forth their light on the FOURTH Day. Gen 1:16

This means that the common ancestor of Apes, on our Earth, lived Billions of years AFTER Adam, the first Human was made, according to Scripture. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

So you believe apes evolved from Adam? Unfortunately there are specimens that might be taken as support for this supposition.

 

[te_lanus]

Anam777 your correct, we didn't evolve from apes, and that God created man as described In Gen 2, we even know what this God's name is. It's the God Ea (or also known as Enki). The original version of creation was preserved for us by the Summerians. Genesis 2 is a retelling of it. How do we know this one is not Dependent on the bible? Well geNesis was written between 1000-1500 years after the summerian text

For our reading pleasure:
You'll never think the same way again. . . The Revelation

 

[Kilgore Trout]

The funny thing is that, in fact, God was created by apes.

 

[Aman777]

More specifically, homo sapiens evolved from other hominids. We're cousins with homo neanderthalis, homo floresiensis, as well as potentially a few others not yet in the fossil record,as well as being more distant cousins with homo habilis, all of us sharing a common ancestor in homo erectus. Erectus evolved from earlier hominids, which are categorized by the ability to walk upright.

Dear Riverwolf, What you are describing is the evolution of prehistoric people who were NOT Humans, no matter how they are classified. In order to inherit Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's, Gen 3:22 you MUST be a descendant of Adam and NOT from the common ancestor of Apes.

And it's not "science" that teaches this. For my ongoing quest to destroy the misconception that science is a singular entity, it's paleobiology that teaches this. It is one of the sciences.

Doesn't matter since it is man made, designed to reject God's Truth, in favor of the changable Assumptions of men. Gen 6:1-4 shows HOW Human blood was contaminated by the prehistoric people who were ALREADY here when Noah arrived to bring Human civilization to this Planet of Apes. Someone should tell them of their error.

The Biblical canon is not history.

True, since it's better. It tells us of our Future, our present, and our past.

Actually, the oldest musical instruments ever found date to about 43,000 years ago: BBC News - Earliest music instruments found

In any case, technological evolution, despite operating on a similar system to natural selection, is separate from biological evolution. Humans from 40,000 years ago were no more or less generally intelligent than us, and would have been perfectly capable of the technological feats we have today. They simply did not have the knowledge or the need to create/utilize them.

Then WHY did they not grow something to eat until some 10k years ago? Adam farmed with NO evolution. And WHY did they live in Caves, instead of houses, and cities? Adam's son Cain built the first Human city on Adam's world. Gen 4 Could it be because Nature does NOT produce Human intelligence in Apes? Or is it because Noah, the first Human to step on this Earth, brought the Human intelligence of Adam here at that time?

You wish us a blessing from your God, so allow me a blessing from mine.
Good Health and Harvest.

Thank you very much. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Alceste]

Is it just me, or are these threads getting sillier and sillier? Maybe we finally convinced all the intellectually sincere creationists and undecideds, and all we have left are Poes and trolls.