Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes

[Dirty Penguin]

The point is, Medical Science is detrimental to humanity, because it causes bacteria to adapt in ways that harm our ability to fight bacteria and diseases.

It may be the point you were trying to make but your point wasn't gemane to the evidence for or against evolution by way of adaptation....

 

[Sonofason]

But how would you know? How could you tell....if you don't even accept the evidence already presented to you by those working in the respective area of evolution?

Honestly, they might already have evidence that I would believe. I just haven't seen it. Perhaps I've even seen it, but don't understand it. If you don't understand evidence, you certainly cannot count it as evidence, can you?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Honestly, they might already have evidence that I would believe. I just haven't seen it. Perhaps I've even seen it, but don't understand it. If you don't understand evidence, you certainly cannot count it as evidence, can you?

But claiming ignorance of it isn't a defense given the amount of available information and easily said information can be accessed these days. Have you taken any biology courses...or at least picked up a book on biology..?

Biology For Dummies, 2nd Edition:Book Information - For Dummies

 

[Sonofason]

It may be the point you were trying to make but your point wasn't gemane to the evidence for or against evolution by way of adaptation....

Actually, I was responding to Triumphant Loser who said,

"And we are making progress. Every little development in technology. Every little thing we do to improve the quality of life. It is all making progress toward the betterment of mankind."

My mentioning evolving bacteria was to show him that he was wrong. Every little thing we do does not improve the quality of life. Medical Scientists are creating havoc, and could very well destroy the entire human race. And why? Because a few atheists are scared to die. There is nothing wrong with dying, and there is no escaping death.

 

[Sapiens]

... a few atheists are scared to die.

Care to support that? I think that is false.

 

[Thief]

Care to support that? I think that is false.

Atheists point to believers and say the same.

 

[Sonofason]

Care to support that? I think that is false.

No sir, it's common knowledge.

 

[sojourner]

No sir, it's common knowledge.

Except it's a false premise. Antibiotics weren't developed "because a few atheists were afraid of death." They were developed as a means to heal infection.

 

[Sonofason]

But claiming ignorance of it isn't a defense given the amount of available information and easily said information can be accessed these days. Have you taken any biology courses...or at least picked up a book on biology..?

Biology For Dummies, 2nd Edition:Book Information - For Dummies

Why, so I can be indoctrinated like you guys?

 

[sojourner]

Why, so I can be indoctrinated like you guys?

Knowledge of scientific fact is hardly "indoctrination." Drama-queen tactics are hardly productive.

 

[Sonofason]

Except it's a false premise. Antibiotics weren't developed "because a few atheists were afraid of death." They were developed as a means to heal infection.

Actually,

"The discovery of antibiotics began by accident. On the morning of September 3rd, 1928, Professor Alexander Fleming was having a clear up of his cluttered laboratory. Fleming was sorting through a number of glass plates which had previously been coated with staphyloccus bacteria as part of research Fleming was doing. One of the plates had mould on it. The mould was in the shape of a ring and the area around the ring seemed to be free of the bacteria staphyloccus. The mould was penicillium notatum. Fleming had a life long interest in ways of killing off bacteria and he concluded that the bacteria on the plate around the ring had been killed off by some substance that had come from the mould."

"Further research on the mould found that it could kill other bacteria and that it could be given to small animals without any side-effects. However, within a year, Fleming had moved onto other medical issues and it was ten years later that Howard Florey and Ernst Chain, working at Oxford University, isolated the bacteria-killing substance found in the mould - penicillin."

"In 1941, a doctor, Charles Fletcher, at a hospital in Oxford had heard of their work. He had a patient who was near to death as a result of bacteria getting into a wound. Fletcher used some of Chain’s and Florey’s penicillin on the patient and the wound made a spectacular recovery. Unfortunately, Fletcher did not have enough penicillin to fully rid the patient’s body of bacteria and he died a few weeks later as the bacteria took a hold."
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/antibiotics.htm

It was developed to prevent death. It just so happens antibiotics can heal bacterial infections as well.

 

[LuisDantas]

It was developed to prevent death. It just so happens antibiotics can heal bacterial infections as well.

"As well", as constrasted to what?

 

[sojourner]

Actually,

"The discovery of antibiotics began by accident. On the morning of September 3rd, 1928, Professor Alexander Fleming was having a clear up of his cluttered laboratory. Fleming was sorting through a number of glass plates which had previously been coated with staphyloccus bacteria as part of research Fleming was doing. One of the plates had mould on it. The mould was in the shape of a ring and the area around the ring seemed to be free of the bacteria staphyloccus. The mould was penicillium notatum. Fleming had a life long interest in ways of killing off bacteria and he concluded that the bacteria on the plate around the ring had been killed off by some substance that had come from the mould."

"Further research on the mould found that it could kill other bacteria and that it could be given to small animals without any side-effects. However, within a year, Fleming had moved onto other medical issues and it was ten years later that Howard Florey and Ernst Chain, working at Oxford University, isolated the bacteria-killing substance found in the mould - penicillin."

"In 1941, a doctor, Charles Fletcher, at a hospital in Oxford had heard of their work. He had a patient who was near to death as a result of bacteria getting into a wound. Fletcher used some of Chain’s and Florey’s penicillin on the patient and the wound made a spectacular recovery. Unfortunately, Fletcher did not have enough penicillin to fully rid the patient’s body of bacteria and he died a few weeks later as the bacteria took a hold."
Antibiotics

It was developed to prevent death. It just so happens antibiotics can heal bacterial infections as well.

None of that disputes the fact that they were developed to heal the infection that was causing death.

 

[Sonofason]

"As well", as constrasted to what?

preventing death of course, as I had said in the first place.

 

[Sonofason]

None of that disputes the fact that they were developed to heal the infection that was causing death.

Oh my, your all missing his point. He was referring to me calling those founders atheists, which they likely were not. But like the atheist, I like saying things about my opponent that are untrue.

 

[idav]

Actually,

"The discovery of antibiotics began by accident. On the morning of September 3rd, 1928, Professor Alexander Fleming was having a clear up of his cluttered laboratory. Fleming was sorting through a number of glass plates which had previously been coated with staphyloccus bacteria as part of research Fleming was doing. One of the plates had mould on it. The mould was in the shape of a ring and the area around the ring seemed to be free of the bacteria staphyloccus. The mould was penicillium notatum. Fleming had a life long interest in ways of killing off bacteria and he concluded that the bacteria on the plate around the ring had been killed off by some substance that had come from the mould."

"Further research on the mould found that it could kill other bacteria and that it could be given to small animals without any side-effects. However, within a year, Fleming had moved onto other medical issues and it was ten years later that Howard Florey and Ernst Chain, working at Oxford University, isolated the bacteria-killing substance found in the mould - penicillin."

"In 1941, a doctor, Charles Fletcher, at a hospital in Oxford had heard of their work. He had a patient who was near to death as a result of bacteria getting into a wound. Fletcher used some of Chain’s and Florey’s penicillin on the patient and the wound made a spectacular recovery. Unfortunately, Fletcher did not have enough penicillin to fully rid the patient’s body of bacteria and he died a few weeks later as the bacteria took a hold."
Antibiotics

It was developed to prevent death. It just so happens antibiotics can heal bacterial infections as well.

It was developed as a means to kill bacteria. That isnt preventing death but preferring one type of life over another.

 

[Sonofason]

It was developed as a means to kill bacteria. That isnt preventing death but preferring one type of life over another.

Why would you want to kill bacteria? What is the motive for killing those poor innocent little creatures?

 

[sojourner]

Why would you want to kill bacteria? What is the motive for killing those poor innocent little creatures?

Trolling is discouraged.

 

[Sonofason]

Trolling is discouraged.

I will tell you. It is to preserve human life. It is to prevent death.

You can call exposing the truth trolling if you like, but it is not such a noteworthy accomplishment.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Actually, I was responding to Triumphant Loser who said,

"And we are making progress. Every little development in technology. Every little thing we do to improve the quality of life. It is all making progress toward the betterment of mankind."

My mentioning evolving bacteria was to show him that he was wrong. Every little thing we do does not improve the quality of life. Medical Scientists are creating havoc, and could very well destroy the entire human race. And why? Because a few atheists are scared to die. There is nothing wrong with dying, and there is no escaping death.

Actually is is toward the betterment of our society because scientist know more today then they did years ago, decades ago, centuries ago about the human body as well as other organisms and their effects on us. There's much more to it than simply over use of antibiotics. Many factors contribute to virus evolving. Even when the virus evolves we humans evolve building up a resistance to either a drug or a virus....As far as us atheist scared to die...well surely you don't speak for any of us. Personally death in my old age doesn't bother me. But I don't see the point in not taking advantage of medical science to prolong ones life in the face of a disease etc. There are many scientific advances that have come about to prevent our deaths...be they external advances or internal....