I Am A Good Person, Therefore, I'm Going To Heaven!

[Thief]

Knowledge is trusting that something is true based on confirming verifiable evidence (objectively based). Faith/belief is trust in something that cannot be confirmed with verifiable evidence (subjectively based).

which means you have little to be certainty of..
and you hardly believe in anything

I on the other hand, can believe and trust my thoughts

 

[Desert Snake]

Knowledge is trusting that something is true based on confirming verifiable evidence (objectively based). Faith/belief is trust in something that cannot be confirmed with verifiable evidence (subjectively based).

Wrong...
faith and belief are words used to describe an adherence, a position. That is why we say 'what is your faith'? And 'my belief is',...they do not infer anything about the 'evidence', used to arrive at such.
And by the way, you're also wrong about the usage of 'objective', and subjective. Commonly misused. We categorize things as 'true', in a subjective manner.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

which means you have little to be certainty of..
and you hardly believe in anything
I on the other hand, can believe and trust my thoughts

The fewer beliefs you have, the more likely you are to see what is actually happening, so having beliefs is not a virtue. The "truth" is often revealed when one is able to embrace uncertainty, letting go of beliefs and preconceptions. But it seems that some people need the comfort of clinging to fictions like "God", "Heaven", "Cosmic Consciousness" and "Ultimate Reality".

 

[Thief]

The fewer beliefs you have, the more likely you are to see what is actually happening, so having beliefs is not a virtue. The "truth" is often revealed when one is able to embrace uncertainty, letting go of beliefs and preconceptions. But it seems that some people need the comfort of clinging to fictions like "God", "Heaven", "Cosmic Consciousness" and "Ultimate Reality".

I do embrace uncertainty!

God's Favored had a problem.....
God's Favored no longer holds position next to God

no such thing as a secured position...I am certain of it

Someone had to be First in mind and heart......I am certain of it

I lean to science and science claims.....nothing moves without something to move it
Creator before substance

I am certain of it

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I do embrace uncertainty!.................

....I am certain of it

Hmm. I think you need some Guinness therapy to loosen up your thinking.

 

[Thief]

Hmm. I think you need some Guinness therapy to loosen up your thinking.

thank you.....and the dark brown with the thick light brown foamy head is good stuff, indeed!

but for now another chocolate milk thickened with amaretto will do fine

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Perhaps I could tempt you with some Guinness ice-cream?

 

[leibowde84]

which means you have little to be certainty of..
and you hardly believe in anything

I on the other hand, can believe and trust my thoughts

I believe that certainty is an illusion. The only thing that is a certainty is that subjective experience is unreliable.

 

[leibowde84]

Wrong...
faith and belief are words used to describe an adherence, a position. That is why we say 'what is your faith'? And 'my belief is',...they do not infer anything about the 'evidence', used to arrive at such.
And by the way, you're also wrong about the usage of 'objective', and subjective. Commonly misused. We categorize things as 'true', in a subjective manner.

I believe you are wrong. To each their own.

 

[muhammad_isa]

I believe you are wrong. To each their own.

Ah .. so you DO have beliefs, then

 

[leibowde84]

Ah .. so you DO have beliefs, then

Of course I have beliefs. Never claimed otherwise.

 

[Desert Snake]

I believe you are wrong. To each their own.

I'm talking about word usage, and how the words are //actually used. You're showing a lack of position, and this, actually, is pretty indicative of a...non-, or 'other' position. So, sort of humorous, you've taken a 'religion' position that allows for the nonsense, so to speak.

People use, the words 'faith', and 'belief', in a manner that you don't.

You're only answer, is 'I believe you're wrong?......'

 

[Thief]

I believe that certainty is an illusion. The only thing that is a certainty is that subjective experience is unreliable.

therefore .....your range of belief is quite small

I am certain of it

 

[Thief]

Of course I have beliefs. Never claimed otherwise.

are you sure?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

.....your range of belief is quite small

That's a virtue.

 

[Thief]

That's a virtue.

I'm not sure(certain) I can agree to that

 

[leibowde84]

I'm talking about word usage, and how the words are //actually used. You're showing a lack of position, and this, actually, is pretty indicative of a...non-, or 'other' position. So, sort of humorous, you've taken a 'religion' position that allows for the nonsense, so to speak.

People use, the words 'faith', and 'belief', in a manner that you don't.

You're only answer, is 'I believe you're wrong?......'

Here are the ways I am using the terms in question, which are commonly accepted and accurate.

be·lief
bəˈlēf/
noun

1. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.

knowl·edge
ˈnäləj/
noun

1. awareness or familiarity gained by experience of a fact or situation.

fact
fakt/
noun

1. a thing that is indisputably the case.

 

[leibowde84]

therefore .....your range of belief is quite small

I am certain of it

What do you mean by "range of belief"?

 

[leibowde84]

are you sure?

Yep.

 

[Desert Snake]

Here are the ways I am using the terms in question, which are commonly accepted and accurate.

be·lief
bəˈlēf/
noun

1. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.

knowl·edge
ˈnäləj/
noun

1. awareness or familiarity gained by experience of a fact or situation.

fact
fakt/
noun

1. a thing that is indisputably the case.

Then you're using them incorrectly, unless you do not have trust or confidence, in your knowledge.