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I Am A Good Person, Therefore, I'm Going To Heaven!

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Why do you believe this? Why would God demand that only those who have the exact same belief structure would be able to "belong" in heaven?
To arrive at a destination, we have to go in the right direction. If somebody denies its existence, that would assume the person is not making any effort to get there
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
To arrive at a destination, we have to go in the right direction. If somebody denies its existence, that would assume the person is not making any effort to get there
It is written that a man made his way to the marriage feast, which destination is in the right direction imho, but he was not dressed properly.
To get dressed is more important than being there. I do not have to believe in God to get dressed.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
This picture was taken two blocks from my home. At the moment I can't get a good picture from my window because the leaves from a tree is obstructing my view.
[GALLERY=media, 7573]New York sky line by roger1440 posted Jul 17, 2016 at 8:04 PM[/GALLERY]

Thank You roger1440. You put a smile on my face. My friend lived at Horatio Street back in the 60's ( West Village )
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
To arrive at a destination, we have to go in the right direction. If somebody denies its existence, that would assume the person is not making any effort to get there

Your ^ above ^ posts reminded me of Psalms 119:105
That Scripture is a 'lamp' ( flashlight ) for our feet. Spiritual light shining at our feet to brighten our immediate steps.
That Scripture is also a 'light' ( high beams ) to our path or roadway. Spiritual ' high beams ' so we can clearly see what is ahead for what the future holds.
Research of Scripture is the ' switch ' that 'turns on the lights' so we arrive safely at our destination - Proverbs 4:18
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
It is written that a man made his way to the marriage feast, which destination is in the right direction imho, but he was not dressed properly.
To get dressed is more important than being there. I do not have to believe in God to get dressed.
that parable is a bit more complicated
no one that showed up at the feast was properly dressed

it was a come as you are party......

maybe a fresh op own your part.....and let me know if you do
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
To arrive at a destination, we have to go in the right direction. If somebody denies its existence, that would assume the person is not making any effort to get there
If "Jesus takes the wheel", why do I have to be awake? I'm not driving ... :)

Why is only one singled out then?
I guess it's supposed to insult people who "aren't prepared" for Jesus' coming. However, I've long had a problem with this story:

God: YOU DON'T HAVE FORMAL ATTIRE EVEN THOUGH I INVITED A HOMELESS PERSON! BURN!

Me: Yo, bro, you ain't got a tux? S'cool, man ... I got some stuff in the back you can borrow. Welcome to the party...
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I am sure that the one without the right attire was singled out because he did not recognize that he was at a wedding. It wasn't that he was not dressed right but that he cared not for the bride and the groom. We can care about them, whether we are there or not and they care for us, whether we are there or not. Luke 15:1-7
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Matthew 22:11-14

Why is only one singled out then?
and everyone else can hear the commotion just outside the Door
that fellow was bound hand and foot
he didn't run off

so what is there in the Outer Darkness that would cause a man to cry out?
and then gnash his teeth

and they, who remain at the Table .....
are going to wonder.....
who's next?!
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Why do you believe this? Why would God demand that only those who have the exact same belief structure would be able to "belong" in heaven?
It is not something that God demands, but it is something that the middle men have instituted. Otherwise people could have direct access to God.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
so what is there in the Outer Darkness that would cause a man to cry out?
Cry out? I think cry out means to look for help. It says "weeping" according to my reference.
Weeping is for sorrow and gnashing is for angry.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Cry out? I think cry out means to look for help. It says "weeping" according to my reference.
Weeping is for sorrow and gnashing is for angry.
ok....you can use weeping if you prefer

he was bound hand and foot....and wept
if he became angry.....it would do him no good

gnashing (clenching of teeth) is likely a response to sharp pain

AND the gnashing might not be his own
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
It is not something that God demands, but it is something that the middle men have instituted. Otherwise people could have direct access to God.
we do have.....it is written.....
Go to your closet and close the door
The Spirit that knows you will hear.....
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
did I mention in this thread.....?

God's Favored had a problem
so He doesn't live with God anymore
He got tossed out of heaven

apparently there is no such thing as a secured position
 

roger1440

I do stuff
If a parent constantly tells a young child the child will be beat mercilessly unless the child behaves over and over, day after day, month after month, year after year most people would view this behavior as some sort of psychological abuse. There is a likelihood this treatment will have detrimental effects on the child. The child would live in fear of retribution for every action the child takes. The child will second guess everything it does.

But if the same parent tells the same child unless he or she behaves the child will spend eternity being tormented in furnace of Hell, that is acceptable. The rational being used is to coerce the child to change its ways. It is better to suffer in this life which is temporal rather than spend eternity in the furnace of Hell. This is exactly the same rational used to justify burning heretics at the stake. Heretics were not burned as a punishment. It was used to persuade them to change their heretical views. The goal was to save their souls.

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