I am done with Trump discussions

[crossfire]

There are no men without a Y chromosome as per the National Institute of Health citation I have already provided. None. You are wrong. Get over yourself.

You are going to to have to refine your definition from Y chromosome to SRY gene.

Sex-determining region Y protein - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It appears that 90% of XX males have the SRY gene on one of the X chromosomes. This would occur when the there was transcription error in the father's process of meiosis.

Meiosis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It looks like about 1 in 20,000 males are XX males, which is about 4 times more common than XY females.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, you took the pop-sci front page description as the totality of understanding as is typical of non-scientists, this is a common failing of absolutist thinkers who often subscribe to beiefs without evidence.

Amazing. You pointed out his error to him where his own source refuted his claim and he cannot see it.

 

[Argentbear]

There are no men without a Y chromosome as per the National Institute of Health citation I have already provided. None. You are wrong. Get over yourself.

there are millions of such men its the XX MALE syndrome. the National Institute of Health indicates that XX male syndrome a condition that affects about 1 in 20,000 males. not females, males.

 

[Martin]

If Trump wins, I am moving to Canada! I'm Canadian, so it's a short drive, but still.

 

[Martin]

I wish the Farting Trumpet would return to his home planet of Littatrey, but apparently they don't want him back.

 

[Shaul]

You are going to to have to refine your definition from Y chromosome to SRY gene.

Sex-determining region Y protein - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No, there is no need to do so, see below.

It appears that 90% of XX males have the SRY gene on one of the X chromosomes. This would occur when the there was transcription error in the father's process of meiosis.

Meiosis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It looks like about 1 in 20,000 males are XX males, which is about 4 times more common than XY females.

The SRY gene is a part of the Y chromosome. It can sometimes be found in mutations without the rest of the Y chromosome. The NIH definition, and mine, can accommodate this without need for revision.

 

[Shaul]

there are millions of such men its the XX MALE syndrome. the National Institute of Health indicates that XX male syndrome a condition that affects about 1 in 20,000 males. not females, males.

"Male syndrome" and "male" are not synonyms.

 

[metis]

What was that about depravity?

Not in my book. After all, I'm Swedish.

 

[Pogo]

"Male syndrome" and "male" are not synonyms.

And genes and chromosomes are not synonyms either, your point besides you don't understand biology well enough to even understand the words?

 

[Argentbear]

"Male syndrome" and "male" are not synonyms.

XX male syndrome is called XX male syndrome because males have it so yes male is synonymous with male

 

[Martin]

Fat Felonious Fibbing Farting Trumpet.

 

[crossfire]

No, there is no need to do so, see below.

The SRY gene is a part of the Y chromosome. It can sometimes be found in mutations without the rest of the Y chromosome. The NIH definition, and mine, can accommodate this without need for revision.

In the transcription error, the SRY gene is moved to an X chromosome. The XX individual develops into the male phenotype (they have all of the male equipment) due to the SRY on the X chromosome from their father. The SRY gene on their X chromosome is responsible for them developing into the male phenotype. You can't tell them from other males without a genetic test, other than fertility problems.

 

[Shaul]

XX male syndrome is called XX male syndrome because males have it so yes male is synonymous with male

LOL. Sure, friend. NOT! A Chapelle syndrome is a female with infertile male phenotype genitalia. And the SRY gene that produces it is part of the Y chromosome. So that means they have XX and part of a Y. So not strictly XX.

And....

Where is YOUR definition of male?

 

[Kathryn]

My head hurts from reading these posts.

 

[Shaul]

In the transcription error, the SRY gene is moved to an X chromosome. The XX individual develops into the male phenotype (they have all of the male equipment) due to the SRY on the X chromosome from their father. The SRY gene on their X chromosome is responsible for them developing into the male phenotype. You can't tell them from other males without a genetic test, other than fertility problems.

So they have part of a Y chromosome. Ergo they could be argued to have a Y chromosome.

 

[crossfire]

So they have part of a Y chromosome. Ergo they could be argued to have a Y chromosome.

And that part would be the SRY gene. Which is the part that I said you would have to change your definition from Y Chromosome to SRY gene. Even if it's on an X chromosome instead of a Y chromosome.

 

[Argentbear]

LOL. Sure, friend. NOT! A Chapelle syndrome is a female with infertile male phenotype genitalia. And the SRY gene that produces it is part of the Y chromosome. So that means they have XX and part of a Y. So not strictly XX.

The SRY gene take up less than .06% of the Y chromosome

People who have xx male syndrome are male.

And....

Where is YOUR definition of male?

A man is someone who doesn't twist biological fact to justify personal prejudice

 

[Argentbear]

So they have part of a Y chromosome. Ergo they could be argued to have a Y chromosome.

not by anyone who is honest

 

[Copernicus]

My head hurts from reading these posts.

Blame Clizby. He's the one who came up with the idea of starting a thread on being done with Trump discussions, thus spawning another one. That's why we are now having a pointless discussion on how to define a woman. This is how Trump threads work. Don't worry. The pain will stop when the coma phase starts.

 

[Kathryn]

Blame Clizby. He's the one who came up with the idea of starting a thread on being done with Trump discussions, thus spawning another one. That's why we are now having a pointless discussion on how to define a woman. This is how Trump threads work. Don't worry. The pain will stop when the coma phase starts.

I think this is how many threads work.