I am Israel

[England my lionheart]

Like I said EML, tell me when you are done blithering about Hamas and ready to talk about how Israel does the same exact thing in the W.B.


As I said, Israel is worse than Hamas and Hamas is a reactionary group borne out of Israeli actions.

Hamas was born out of the Muslim Brotherhood as you well know,like you they believe that Israel is a Waqf,of course this means nothing outside of Islam and the reality is the Jewish people are not going to leave their country,continually pointing the finger at Israel and saying they are worse than Hamas is just childich IMO.

 

[waitasec]

all this over hummus?

 

[Bismillah]

The M.B was popular in Palestine because of Zionism and Israel...

continually pointing the finger at Israel and saying they are worse than Hamas is just childich IMO.

I could care less for your IMO because I base MO on Israel's actions in the West Bank.

Tell me when you are done with your odd obsession with Hamas and will look at the whole picture.

 

[England my lionheart]

The M.B was popular in Palestine because of Zionism and Israel...



I could care less for your IMO because I base MO on Israel's actions in the West Bank.

Tell me when you are done with your odd obsession with Hamas and will look at the whole picture.

Its is part of the whole picture,Hamas are like a stone around the neck of the Palestinian people,i know Fatah aren't much better but the religion written into the Charter/Covenant has no bearing on reality,even Fatah changed the wording of theirs to make it less aggressive,you want people to condemn Israel but in all honesty the Palestinian people have orchestrated their own doom.

 

[Bismillah]

the Palestinian people have orchestrated their own doom.

Disgusting. Tell me the justification for colonization then.

 

[England my lionheart]

Disgusting. Tell me the justification for colonization then.

You mean the Balfour declaration or what

 

[Bismillah]

You mean the Balfour declaration or what

I mean the seizure and colonization of Arab land by Israel.

 

[England my lionheart]

I mean the seizure and colonization of Arab land by Israel.

See,heres the misconception,its not Arab land,it was once but it lost it a long time ago and it will never be Arab land again,thats the reality,it was Ottoman then British and now its Jewish.

 

[Bismillah]

its not Arab land,it was once but it lost it a long time ago

The Zionist speaking in you?

It is occupied land, to annex and build on it is illegal. Simple.

 

[England my lionheart]

The Zionist speaking in you?

No,i'm not a Zionist,i am a realist though

It is occupied land, to annex and build on it is illegal. Simple.

How can it be illegal

 

[darkendless]

How can it be illegal

Because its "Holy land."

As far as i'm aware the British won the war thus relieving the Ottoman Empire of its control of the land. Correct me if i'm wrong here?

 

[England my lionheart]

Because its "Holy land."

As far as i'm aware the British won the war thus relieving the Ottoman Empire of its control of the land. Correct me if i'm wrong here?

No correction needed,thats right,it revolves around it being a Waqf which means to some Muslims that it cannot be owned by anyone else,i'm sure Bismillah will correct me if i'm wrong though

 

[Rakhel]

Because its "Holy land."

As far as i'm aware the British won the war thus relieving the Ottoman Empire of its control of the land. Correct me if i'm wrong here?

your not wrong.

 

[Rakhel]

It is called "Right of Conquest"

 

[TashaN]

See,heres the misconception,its not Arab land,it was once but it lost it a long time ago and it will never be Arab land again,thats the reality,it was Ottoman then British and now its Jewish.

Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[kai]

The Territories were indeed occupied in the 1967 war the west bank was Jordanian and Gaza was Egyptian, you will see from Tashans link that the Palestinians as an entity have claimed the west bank and east Jerusalem since 1988 and Gaza since 1979.

 

[kai]

Equal moral standing? Yes. The reason, however, that you see a greater political interest is that there is some ability to CHANGE the situation in Palestine. Really! after 60 odd years we must realize the only change will come from the participants. The greater political interest is due to Arab interest.

Are you telling me the U.N has the same authority in Russia as it does in Palestine? Yes virtually nothing

The only reason the Palestinian issue gets so much coverage on the world stage and indeed on theses forums is Arab involvement and Arab influence.

Thats why until recently it was always known as the Arab -Israeli conflict.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Israeli_conflict

 

[Rakhel]

Look. this game can be played forever. There are many occupied lands throughout the world. Some occupied by Muslim countries as well. Why is it only the Israeli occupied land that is in question? What about Cypress? What about Kurdistan? How about Kasmir? Or does the word "illegal" only matter when it refers to Israel?

 

[kai]

Look. this game can be played forever. There are many occupied lands throughout the world. Some occupied by Muslim countries as well. Why is it only the Israeli occupied land that is in question? What about Cypress? What about Kurdistan? How about Kasmir? Or does the word "illegal" only matter when it refers to Israel?

You are of course right but Palestine has Arab clout behind it. Cypress, Kurdistan and Kashmir, Chechnya etc, etc doesn't.

 

[Rakhel]

You are of course right but Palestine has Arab clout behind it. Cypress, Kurdistan and Kashmir, Chechnya etc, etc doesn't.

The only reason no one looks at those countries, with the exception of Chechnya, is that they are occupied by Muslim countries.