Rakhel
Well-Known Member
Nope. Don't think so. You seem to change your opinion more often than I change my shorts.
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I am Israel
- Thread starter Sahar
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Is this the message of the Palestinians to the Israeli's ?
Hamas Charter
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."
"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."
"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
Here is the thing I think a lot of people are missing.
IF Israel were the big, evil, opportunist, oppressors that everyone is want to believe they are, they would have stormed Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, during the recent political unrest.
But what did they do? Open their hospitals and let those countries handle their own political affairs without any interference.
IF Israel were the big, evil, opportunist, oppressors that everyone is want to believe they are, they would have stormed Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, during the recent political unrest.
But what did they do? Open their hospitals and let those countries handle their own political affairs without any interference.
Chisti
Active Member
So you're saying Israel's policies are similar to that of terrorist groups?
Levite
Higher and Higher
Typical Palestinian propaganda piece. Not interested in more "woe-is-me" demonizing of Israel while failing to mention the failure of the Arabs to agree to the 1947 UN Partition Plan, or the waves of terrorism later on unleashed against Israeli civilians.
If there's ever going to be a solution to this, part of it is going to have to be not only Israeli willingness to offer reparations, but Palestinian willingness to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist. And both sides are going to have to let some things go. Crap like this propaganda piece isn't going to help matters, any more than the ultra-right-wing crap anti-Palestinian propaganda put out by Kach and Kahane Chai in Israel.
Chisti
Active Member
No doubt Israel is one of the most oppressive, barbaric regimes in the world, an apartheid state where racism and genocide are state policies. They do not even hesitate to use white phosphorous, which exposes their utter disregard for human rights.
Yet Palestinians should openly stand against hamas and such organizations. They must fight all battles nonviolently, or they too might become more and more like Israelis. Then what's the point in fighting for freedom? In short, they badly need a Mahatma Gandhi to lead them.
That's the only solution.
Yet Palestinians should openly stand against hamas and such organizations. They must fight all battles nonviolently, or they too might become more and more like Israelis. Then what's the point in fighting for freedom? In short, they badly need a Mahatma Gandhi to lead them.
That's the only solution.
No,that was part of the Hamas Charter,its quite obvious that there can be no peace with Israel because the Charter says so,there is nothing in the Charter about the well being of the Palestinian people,its just hate.
Chisti
Active Member
When you fight a barbaric enemy, you become more and more like them. Since hamas or whoever has been fighting against a brutal, barbaric state like Israel, they're slowly acting like them. No surprises. Like I said before, Palestine needs a Gandhi to counter Israel's barbarism.
Barbaric enemy? When is the last time the Israeli army stormed into a house and killed a family in its sleep? When is the last time the Israeli army fired a rocket into a school bus? It has never happened. When will you open your eyes to see the truth concerning the Arab-Israeli conflict? It likely will never happen. Your hatred of anything that isn't Muslim is too obvious.
The solution is for the population exchange that began with Jews being transferred from Arab countries to be finished as they welcome their Muslim brethren from "Palestine". Let the Muslims stop using their own people as pawns in a game that places Israel as a scapegoat for any wrong in the lives of their citizens. Let there be an intellectually-honest discussion, instead of the oft-insulting and too oft-accusatory "negotiations". Let both sides stop inciting(an all-out war is more likely, and no, this generation of "Palestinians" hasn't seen an all-out war).
So what? Hamas has done things much worse to their own people.
Chisti
Active Member
You said Israel has never done anything wrong. I gave you proof, and now suddenly you shift to hamas.
You gave me proof that Israel used weapons in a military action. There's a surprise
. Anyways, you want to play the blame game, so how many crimes against humanity have your darlings committed in the last few years?
Chisti
Active Member
No, I gave you proof that Israel used disproportionate force and chemical weapons against civilians. That makes it barbaric, so please don't make excuses.
Phosphorus technically isn't a chemical weapon, it's in incendiary, but you guys aren't good with classifications. As far as barbarism, "Itbah al Yahud!" is the battle cry of these animals. I don't think they should be given the right to exist due to such.
Chisti
Active Member
Congratulations! You're now no different from terrorists.
Chisti
Active Member
Israel is a serial human rights international law abuser. The UN Human Rights Commission affirms that it violates nearly all 149 articles of the Fourth Geneva Convention that governs the treatment of civilians in war and under occupation and is guilty of grievous war crimes.
Source: Israel's Slow-Motion Genocide in Occupied Palestine
Source: Israel's Slow-Motion Genocide in Occupied Palestine