mindlight
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More like he allows a lying spirit to deceive those who want to be deceived and in doing so achieves a greater purpose. A world in which freewill is possible is one in which injustice and judgment for sins will occur
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*[I believe] Atheism is an absurd worldview
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More like he allows a lying spirit to deceive those who want to be deceived and in doing so achieves a greater purpose. A world in which freewill is possible is one in which injustice and judgment for sins will occur
Then why are Christians vilifying Mao and Hitler and Stalin and all those when they are doing Gods will?
Gambit
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Spontaneous acts are inherently mysterious. If perchance, you discovered a mechanistic explanation for what appears to be a truly random event, then it would no longer qualify as a truly random event.
mindlight
See in the dark
Islam is a dying religion and the numbers hide an immense erosion of the religion that has occurred over the last 30 years. Previously Muslims only converted as a result of conquest but now we are starting to see missionary movements inside the Muslim world bringing converts. Muslims have estimated that as many as 6 million Muslims convert each year in Africa alone. You are correct that the Bible and the Quran cannot both be true. There is only one witness to the Divine authority of the Quran - Mohammed. Its testimony contradicts all previous revelations, contains falsehoods and corrupted versions of biblical stories. But that is a whole other thread!
mindlight
See in the dark
Because they acted like godless evil fools might be one good reason. They were unwilling tools not true servants
Then what you are saying is that what appears "mystical" today can be rendered "non-mystical" tomorrow? What if everything is rendered "non-mystical" what do mystics have left?
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mindlight
See in the dark
you have a strange and self centred version of what right might be. Mohammed also insisted on such a tyranny of consciousness. The Christian witness is that of a community of witnesses to truth. A degree of pluralism is acceptable where God is involved as no imperfect mind can fully articulate who he is.
They acted like godless evil fools because God wanted them too... are you really blaming people for being fools and not the God who takes advantage of fools to perform genocide!?
outhouse
Atheistically
mindlight
See in the dark
Admire them for killing Christians why?
Admire them for acts of evil why?
God allowed them their power and authority for a season. The church in both their countries is stronger for the test. But both countries are deeply wounded. If there had been a better way to achieve his purposes while respecting human freedom God would have found it
outhouse
Atheistically
Unsubstantiated.
Academically speaking we see nothing but a man who collected plagiarized traditions from previous religions.
There is NO divine authority what so ever that can be substantiated.
outhouse
Atheistically
This thread is not about what your god can or cannot do.
Today no such power or authority has ever been shown or substantiated.
outhouse
Atheistically
What ever that means. Sounds like a personal assumption.
The number of books is also dependent on geographic location
Your God, who knows everything, places Hitler and Stalin and Mao in authority. What is the only thing we can deduce from that?
Gambit
Well-Known Member
Agreed. But the standard interpretation of quantum mechanics holds that nature is fundamentally random (mystical). Of course, all scientific theories are provisional and potentially falsifiable.
Well, everything has not been rendered "non-mystical." And there is good reason to believe it never will be. But if you disagree, then you are simply displaying your faith in materialism.
mindlight
See in the dark
No you are correct this OP is to demonstrate the absurdity of atheism.
outhouse
Atheistically
And you have nothing credible to bring against it.
Your personal mythology and personal definition of what god is means nothing since you cannot substantiate a single word.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
and thus far the whole thread has failed to show it outside the choir
outhouse
Atheistically
Yet we know factually many will never be overturned or changed because the certainty is just that.
mindlight
See in the dark
How would you as an atheist substantiate your claim there is no God