mindlight
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Hinduism has more than 333 million I heard. Do not underestimate humanities capacity to create false gods!
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*[I believe] Atheism is an absurd worldview
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Hinduism has more than 333 million I heard. Do not underestimate humanities capacity to create false gods!
outhouse
Atheistically
I don't need proof, my statement is one of fact.
Factually no gods exist scientifically
mindlight
See in the dark
outhouse
Atheistically
outhouse
Atheistically
mindlight
See in the dark
Actually having a friend in Christ is the difference between having some perspective on ultimate reality and knowing nothing but dark dreams and shadows
outhouse
Atheistically
You factually do not have any authority or credibility to denounce any one elses religion.
Start providing sources to back up all these claims we can throw away under the title of apologetic rhetoric
mindlight
See in the dark
What men glimpsed in the Old Testament and what prophets and kings longed to know is fully revealed in Christ. A full knowledge of the Old Testament is essential to understanding the Messiah it prophesied and the God who is demonstrated in humsn history by Christ
outhouse
Atheistically
Much of this text is mythology and it is theology not just history. More is pseudohistory then history.
What do you actually understand of the OT?
Have you studied under a scholar or anthropologist or historian? or just making things up to meet your personal needs?
mindlight
See in the dark
Of course this is up for debate - its a pack of lies and there is nothing objective about the latest scholarly opinions in comparative religious studies - they change all the time. But how is all this relevant to the absurdity of atheism. Don't you think it is slightly absurd that you can speak with any authority or objectivity when you have disallowed the only viable reference point for sanity and reality. You are not a witness to the events these scholars describe on such flimsy evidence and hearsay that would not even go to trial in the modern courts system. The best an honest man can say in the field of comparative religious studies is I do not know!
mindlight
See in the dark
Then you must also admit that science cannot disprove the existence of all gods as being a FACT. So since the scientific method cannot prove or disprove the existence of gods its usefulness is questionable in this discussion
outhouse
Atheistically
Substantiate your BASELESS claims
I can speak with authority because I possess the education on these topics you seem to know nothing at all about.
You are in no position to take on the current state of academia because you refuse knowledge, not possessing any credible education on these topics.
outhouse
Atheistically
Science is not in the job of disproving anything, that is not what science does.
mindlight
See in the dark
Since you have no King you speak on your own authority Which extends only over the unique bubble of your own existence. Don't you think that it is absurd that one who stands in the presence of the Living God should take you seriously!
outhouse
Atheistically
No you misunderstand again.
Factually no gods exist scientifically because there is nothing to observe or report on.
outhouse
Atheistically
We call that unsubstantiated mythology.
What living god ? I'm sorry there is no evidence for this. It could be your imagination as far as we our concerned.
It is just your faith and faith alone, and faith is not something we take seriously. Faith is a belief where there is nothing there at all to substantiate those claims, a complete lack of credible evidence.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The definition of atheism does not depend upon the word "god" being in singular or plural form.
First, you just stated that atheists do claim god exists, and, second, atheism is lack of belief in a god concept. In it's most basic approach, to address the question of does a god concept exist, theists answer with yes, atheists answer with no, and agnostics answer with I don't know. No matter how much you want to think it, not everyone is an atheists. Believe in Osiris but not in Kukulcan does not make one an atheist due their disbelief in the Mayan mythology, but a theist because of their belief in the Egyptian mythology. Panthology is not a requisite for theism.
outhouse
Atheistically
What evidence do you base this on outside mythology?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
How can you be sure that yours too is a false god? The Bible was written by men, afterall.
outhouse
Atheistically
You have no refuted this in any way.
You have no proofs or evidence. I don't have to prove anything even though I can. The burden of proof is on you to substantiate your claims
Your god is a compilation of two Canaanite gods El and Yahweh. Later that definition was changed to add a "son of god" which the people who wrote the NT were worshipping the Emperor as son of god a year before.
Then islam changed the definition of god yet again after plagiarizing previous traditions the same as all religions had done.
Israelites redefined their god based on Canaanite mythology.
Christians redefined their god based on Judaism and the martyrdom of a Galilean
islam redefined their god based on all previous traditions.
There is nothing to observe and nothing to report on so your personal god does not exist outside mythology and faith.
None of this is up for debate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah
Iron Age Yahwism
The religion of the Israelites of Iron Age I, like the Canaanite faith from which it evolved and other ancient Near Eastern religions, was based on a cult of ancestors and worship of family gods (the "gods of the fathers").[71][72] With the emergence of the monarchy at the beginning of Iron Age II the kings promoted their family god, Yahweh, as the god of the kingdom, but beyond the royal court, religion continued to be both polytheistic and family-centered.[73] The major deities were not numerous – El, Asherah, and Yahweh, with Baal as a fourth god, and perhaps Shamash (the sun) in the early period.[74] At an early stage El and Yahweh became fused and Asherah did not continue as a separate state cult,[74] although she continued to be popular at a community level until Persian times.[75]
You have no proofs or evidence. I don't have to prove anything even though I can. The burden of proof is on you to substantiate your claims
Your god is a compilation of two Canaanite gods El and Yahweh. Later that definition was changed to add a "son of god" which the people who wrote the NT were worshipping the Emperor as son of god a year before.
Then islam changed the definition of god yet again after plagiarizing previous traditions the same as all religions had done.
Israelites redefined their god based on Canaanite mythology.
Christians redefined their god based on Judaism and the martyrdom of a Galilean
islam redefined their god based on all previous traditions.
There is nothing to observe and nothing to report on so your personal god does not exist outside mythology and faith.
None of this is up for debate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah
Iron Age Yahwism
The religion of the Israelites of Iron Age I, like the Canaanite faith from which it evolved and other ancient Near Eastern religions, was based on a cult of ancestors and worship of family gods (the "gods of the fathers").[71][72] With the emergence of the monarchy at the beginning of Iron Age II the kings promoted their family god, Yahweh, as the god of the kingdom, but beyond the royal court, religion continued to be both polytheistic and family-centered.[73] The major deities were not numerous – El, Asherah, and Yahweh, with Baal as a fourth god, and perhaps Shamash (the sun) in the early period.[74] At an early stage El and Yahweh became fused and Asherah did not continue as a separate state cult,[74] although she continued to be popular at a community level until Persian times.[75]