LyricalDutchess
Chi-Alpha Daughter
Msizer. And i thought when you asked me the question, thought you were siding with him.
My apologies
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I Can Not Respect A God who Allows Children to Suffer
- Thread starter MSizer
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Msizer. And i thought when you asked me the question, thought you were siding with him.
My apologies
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
I'm always on my side...well, except when I'm not.
LyricalDutchess
Chi-Alpha Daughter
Um.....alright. LOL
MSizer
MSizer
Yes you could have...
No, you could not! Can you suddenly change what you believe at will? Of course not! You can't decide what you believe and what you don't believe. Come on, do you believe 2 + 2 = 5? Can you choose to believe it? Of course you can't.
It is indeed a belief. I never suggested otherwise.
MSizer
MSizer
No, I have never said that. That would be ridiculous.
Smoke
Done here.
No, really, they haven't. If we have the ability not to sin, why should it surprise you if some people don't?
If every single person had sinned, that would be an indication that we really don't have the power to keep from sinning, and you've clearly indicated that we do.
LyricalDutchess
Chi-Alpha Daughter
*sigh* Listen. You said accepting Jesus as my Lord and Savior is not a belief. Which indeed it is. Accepting Him is not belief. Asking Him into my heart is not the belief. But believing that He IS Lord and Savior, and that Im very much in need a Savior is belief!
LyricalDutchess
Chi-Alpha Daughter
Again......all have sinned, and fallen short. Not one is exempt. Mind you, Im not speaking on the children under the age of accountability, nor mental disorders that causes one to not consciously make such a decision. But whether you want to believe it or not, we all have thought some things we shouldnt have. We wont ever reach that point to where we can remain sinless UNLESS we have the Sinless One living within us.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
You can't choose to believe that!
MSizer
MSizer
No, as it is not a belief, it is an action. As an analogy, I could look at my prime minister and choose to submit to his authority (or choose not to), but I can't choose to believe he doesn't exist because I have seen him. Likewise, you feel you have evidence of jesus' existence, therefore you can't choose to believe he doesn't exist.
Exactly, and you don't choose that.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I've never sinned. However, I don't have the sinless one living inside me. I had some type of parasitic worm when I was a little kid, but I don't know whether it was sinless or not.
MSizer
MSizer
Is there an emoticon for giving the finger (kidding of course)
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
How about, oOoo?
LyricalDutchess
Chi-Alpha Daughter
Again, i said................nevermind.
LOLEh. This is going in circles, and repeating the same thing over and over is something ive made in my mind not to do in one debate, i leave it at that. Just one of those "wipe the dust from your feet" moments. LOL
So agree to disagree on that matter.
LyricalDutchess
Chi-Alpha Daughter
Again, whether you believe it or not, i go by scripture. YES YES YES i know you dont. But doesnt change what i hold to be truth. As it changes nothing for you.
You see yourself as sinless? Thats you.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
No, you were refering to what a book says God says is a sin... totally different things.
It is in a book... lots of things are in books.
Sinners are punishes.... we are automatically all sinners... therefore your god punishes newborns for crimes they did not commit.
If disease is a punishment for sin a newborn dies from disease, then that newborn died so that a bully god could satisfy an unjust lust for suffering.
That has yet to be demonstrated. You have asserted a lot... not necessarily explained it.
wa:do
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
You see yourself as sinless? Thats you.
I am sinless. And, seeing that god has given us the choice to sin or not, I don't see why you don't believe me.
LyricalDutchess
Chi-Alpha Daughter
*sigh*
I have explained much of my standings. And knowing Im a christian, i thought it common knowledge that i believe Jesus to be the only way to the Father and that the Bible is His Word. So for future references, you all know that. LOL
No need to get snipy. And simply because you dont like my answers, doesnt mean i havent explained my stance in my previous posts.
Maybe i just need to leave. Because apparently, anything i say, words will be put in my mouth. LOL *sigh* Yall have a good one.
I have explained much of my standings. And knowing Im a christian, i thought it common knowledge that i believe Jesus to be the only way to the Father and that the Bible is His Word. So for future references, you all know that. LOL
No need to get snipy. And simply because you dont like my answers, doesnt mean i havent explained my stance in my previous posts.
Maybe i just need to leave. Because apparently, anything i say, words will be put in my mouth. LOL *sigh* Yall have a good one.
LyricalDutchess
Chi-Alpha Daughter
MSizer
MSizer
That's a load of crap. You have not substantiated your claims, and now you're accusing us for discrediting them simply on preference. That's either dishonest or delusional.