I don't particularly want to sin...

[DNB]

You can say the moon is made of cheese, but it is not, and all humans are part of the family of great apes, and evolved from common ancestors. Unlike your claims that is supported by overwhelming scientific evidence.

Humans are not apes. But, if you consider yourself to be, that may explain the other radical and misguided views that you have.

 

[DNB]

I am simply accepting the scientific evidence, which overwhelmingly supports species evolution, the genetic evidence alone, is sufficient to accurately demonstrate our taxonomy. Theistic beliefs and the lack of them, have absolutely no relevance to that.

Sheldon, you sound biased and unreasonable whenever you speak unequivocally of 'no evidence for God', and 'incontrovertible evidence for evolution'. Even the most ardent atheist, can still appreciate how the majority have concluded that there is a God. For, even I can appreciate the notion that there is no God - for a time being. But, you, on the other hand, appear to be oblivious to the grounds in which one may accept the veracity of God's existence. It is you who has the irrevocable presuppositions.

 

[DNB]

This belies the point again.


Great, then lying is not always an immoral action.


Not in certain situations, as demonstrated. So lying isn't an absolutely immoral action.

Yes, it is. It is always a deceit. In other words, it would have been more favorable to avoid the situation, then to have to compromise your integrity.
The point is, that there are grounds to extenuate when one tells a lie, but it is never the preferred solution.

 

[DNB]

Neil is not a biologist. What are you talking about or referring to?



Again, what are you talking about or referring to?
What are you replying to?




Again, what are you talking about or referring to?
What are you replying to?


Do you have something besides silly irrelevant and random ad hominins? Something on point perhaps? Some actual response to what is said in the post you are supposedly replying to?

Or is this the best you can do?

Neil DeGrass is in your signature. And, the rest is the fundamental principle that I am basing all my opinions on.

 

[lukethethird]

Sheldon, you sound biased and unreasonable whenever you speak unequivocally of 'no evidence for God', and 'incontrovertible evidence for evolution'. Even the most ardent atheist, can still appreciate how the majority have concluded that there is a God. For, even I can appreciate the notion that there is no God - for a time being. But, you, on the other hand, appear to be oblivious to the grounds in which one may accept the veracity of God's existence. It is you who has the irrevocable presuppositions.

That most people believe is not a reason to believe, that is the ad populum fallacy, aka the bandwagon fallacy, the number of believers does not make it so. You have to come up with a better reason to believe than that.

 

[DNB]

I think it's ironic to see how you as a "christians" are the one in this thread who's energy is most negative.

You are intolerant to boot and seem to only be concerned with badmouthing others.

It does get exasperating simply trying to predicate a fact as 'men are spiritual beings' and to be met with such contention that the discussion never passes that point. I do have an indignation for atheists, i believe that their sentiments are derived from a desire to not accept God's existence and His authority. I think that He created the world in a manner that left enough ambiguity in its design, in order to expose the sceptics at heart.

 

[DNB]

No, it's not. And you have demonstrated no such thing.

Instead, you're quoting the opinions and attitudes of bronze age peoples claiming to speak for God(s).

There is nothing abominable about being gay. And if there is, your God is the one to blame, not the human beings you want to demonize. My cousin is infinity happier in her life than she has ever been. Who are you to say she's not?


Demonstrably wrong. She was miserable back when she was pretending to be something she wasn't. She and her wife are very happy and they have a beautiful daughter.


She doesn't care. She's happy without your approval.

A man and a woman is a symbiotic and complementarian union. Two men, or two women cannot achieve the same results.

 

[DNB]

There are many instances where animals grieve for family.

Nope, I owned some goldfish once, not one tear was shed nor a funeral was held, for those that died before the others.

 

[Sand Dancer]

It does get exasperating simply trying to predicate a fact as 'men are spiritual beings' and to be met with such contention that the discussion never passes that point. I do have an indignation for atheists, i believe that their sentiments are derived from a desire to not accept God's existence and His authority. I think that He created the world in a manner that left enough ambiguity in its design, in order to expose the sceptics at heart.

Do you have an indignation for Thor or Apollo?

 

[ppp]

It does get exasperating simply trying to predicate a fact as 'men are spiritual beings' and to be met with such contention that the discussion never passes that point. I do have an indignation for atheists, i believe that their sentiments are derived from a desire to not accept God's existence and His authority.

You might consider hat you are expressing a self-centered position. In that what you are saying centers on your thinking that people who do not believe you are necessarily lying.

I think that He created the world in a manner that left enough ambiguity in its design, in order to expose the sceptics at heart.

It could be that he is only looking for people who are unwilling to knowingly accept assertions without evidence. And everyone else can go rot. Or maybe there is not a 'he' here at all.

 

[alypius]

Isn't that a description of right now? What do you suppose God is doing about it?

What if the outcome in the world when people ignore God is that right and wrong cease to have meaning and the powerful just force their way?

 

[alypius]

Would you want to deny it, just because you find the idea unpalatable?

What if this is the outcome if people live as though God did not exist?

 

[alypius]

By assessing the consequences of those actions on the people and things around us. By caring about the well being of sentient creatures.

Just to take a historical example: The bombs at Nagasaki and Hiroshima ended the war, so okay?

 

[ppp]

What if the outcome in the world when people ignore God is that right and wrong cease to have meaning and the powerful just force their way?

What if the outcome in the world when people insist on their god's moral dominion is that the people with the most resources kill those with less, enslave them and pillage their land.

Like, you know, what happened throughout history.

 

[DNB]

Do you have an indignation for Thor or Apollo?

Are they atheists?

 

[lukethethird]

Are they atheists?

They're Gods, all Gods are atheists.

 

[DNB]

You might consider hat you are expressing a self-centered position. In that what you are saying centers on your thinking that people who do not believe you are necessarily lying.


It could be that he is only looking for people who are unwilling to knowingly accept assertions without evidence. And everyone else can go rot. Or maybe there is not a 'he' here at all.

In your avatar, why is your nose so close to your eyes?

 

[Sand Dancer]

Are they atheists?

No, but you are an atheist in regard to them.

 

[ppp]

In your avatar, why is your nose so close to your eyes?

Evolution.

 

[DNB]

They're Gods, all Gods are atheists.

Are you an atheist?