I have a question for all members

[Quagmire]

I understand your staff, and people kind of kiss up to you.

I understand you're getting desperate and need to start pulling cheap shots like that one, but I'll say this: IMO the overwhelming majority of the people in here have a lot more character than I've seen you display so for someone like you to accuse them of being suck-ups is way out of line.

If nobody has told you, I will...I don't give sermons.

That's right, so far you've merely attempted to.

You just read into it that way.
But of courswe, that's just my opinion.

And worth about as much as all of your other opinions.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

I think you're confused about what the term "debate" means. I've seen people post detailed, well thought-out rebuttals of your points and you just responded with (literally) "yada yada yada".

That isn't debating.



That's what I just said.



Really? Where was this? I just did a forums search of the term "Prophesies" and none of your posts came up.



Granted our search feature has a few bugs in it, but it doesn't usually drop the ball completely.

Well, I think that was me, back about page 4. I noted that I didn't think there was enough space in the Bible for 10,000 prophecies, and asked for information about what he understands prophecies to be, and for some examples.

I just got back to the forum, so couldn't respond sooner. Thank you, Dom, for your offer. I'm all for examples, but all 10,000 seems a little excessive. A dozen or so from near the beginning of Genesis, for example, would be enough to get an idea of what constitutes a prophecy for you. A short explanation would help, too, to go along with a small number of examples.

 

[dust1n]

There are script programs you can pick up cheap on the net…nobody works without one. Normal cost is $40

I got Celtx, but man, I just don't much about stage work.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I thought they said "rubarber rubarber rubarber" that's what my drama teacher told me in high school anyway...

I've heard that in a choir/chorus, if you forget the words, you've supposed to mouth the word "watermelon" over and over to make it look like you're still singing.

 

[YmirGF]

No it doesn't. It just irritates people who can't function on a level playing field.

OK, I decided to go look up Rule 8. Geez, Louise! Someone is sniffling about not being able to proselytize? Boo hoo.

Besides, doesn't Rule 11 pretty much nuke all objections to Rule 8?

11. Subverting/Undermining the forum Mission
The purpose of the forum is to provide a civil, informative, respectful and welcoming environment where people of diverse beliefs can discuss, compare and debate. Posts while debating and discussing different beliefs must be done in the spirit of productivity. If a person's main goal is to undermine a set of beliefs by creating unproductive posts/threads/responses to others, etc, then they will be edited or removed and subject to moderation.

It is a mystery to me why anyone would be against that.

 

[Iti oj]

dom, you want that hug yet?

 

[Domenic]

Well, I think that was me, back about page 4. I noted that I didn't think there was enough space in the Bible for 10,000 prophecies, and asked for information about what he understands prophecies to be, and for some examples.

I just got back to the forum, so couldn't respond sooner. Thank you, Dom, for your offer. I'm all for examples, but all 10,000 seems a little excessive. A dozen or so from near the beginning of Genesis, for example, would be enough to get an idea of what constitutes a prophecy for you. A short explanation would help, too, to go along with a small number of examples.

Thank you for the reply. I have a few real life things to do first. I'll try posting in about one hour.

 

[Riverwolf]

I understand your staff, and people kind of kiss up to you.If nobody has told you, I will...I don't give sermons. You just read into it that way.
But of courswe, that's just my opinion.

People don't kiss up to us. We're only staff in the staff-run forums.

When on the public forums, we members just like you.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I actually suggested we rename it "Forum About Religious Topics" but that was shot down pretty quick. Everybody just started mumbling about "acronyms" and how I should "grow up". . .

I thought that was why it's named Religion Education Forum for that reason?

 

[Sir Doom]

Your drama teacher never worked in pictures...yada,yada,yada...

Yeah, I'd have to say you're probably right about that. She certainly never mentioned anything of the sort. I would expect if I were a drama teacher and had been in or around any sort of movies, you can bet every student that ever graced my role sheet would know about it. But that's probably because I'm impossibly arrogant and self-absorbed. That's also probably why I'm not a drama teacher. Although... I can be pretty dramatic about myself, so maybe I could teach by example...

What do you think?

 

[YmirGF]

People don't kiss up to us. We're only staff in the staff-run forums.

When on the public forums, we members just like you.

I doubt that any of the staff would accuse me of kissing up to them.

BTW: When did you want your shoes shined?
(I'm good to go in about an hour.)

 

[Quagmire]

OK, I decided to go look up Rule 8. Geez, Louise! Someone is sniffling about not being able to proselytize? Boo hoo.

Besides, doesn't Rule 11 pretty much nuke all objections to Rule 8?

One would think. :yes:

It is a mystery to me why anyone would be against that.

I'd say that's a pretty clear sign of mental health.

 

[Quagmire]

I thought that was why it's named Religion Education Forum for that reason?

Yeah, but the logo just says "Religious Forums".

 

[Domenic]

Well, I think that was me, back about page 4. I noted that I didn't think there was enough space in the Bible for 10,000 prophecies, and asked for information about what he understands prophecies to be, and for some examples.

I just got back to the forum, so couldn't respond sooner. Thank you, Dom, for your offer. I'm all for examples, but all 10,000 seems a little excessive. A dozen or so from near the beginning of Genesis, for example, would be enough to get an idea of what constitutes a prophecy for you. A short explanation would help, too, to go along with a small number of examples.

PROPHECIES
Here are a few. I’m giving you one from Daniel 8:3=23
This was written before Alexander the Great was born. Daniel ask God, what was the meaning of what he wrote. God replied these things are sealed until the time of the end. Since we understand the scripture, I assume we are in that time.
This Prophecy is about Alexander the Great. How he came to power. Alexander was the first king of Media and Persia. (you can read that in history.) The horn is power. Broken off is death. Dividing into four. His Generals divided up his empire into four parts. This Prophecy, like many others were written before the event. They came true.
　
Here are a few from Genesis. If you want, I will send you 10,000
Gen 3:19
Gen 3:22
Gen 5:24
Gen 6:3
Gen 8:22

 

[Madhuri]

Dom, your arguments are pretty weak.

This forum is called 'Religious Forum' because religion is the main theme. This shouldn't be difficult to understand.

Did you go to school? To university? They teach you how to create the kind of argument that this forum encourages. You would fail an assignment if you just stated your opinion as fact. Instead, you come in with an opinion (making it clear that it is your opinion) and develop an argument using evidence.

This is what most members of RF manage to do quite well on a daily basis. I see no reason why it should trouble you.

As for your statement that this site is against religion, I find it completely ludicrous. The only thing the site is against is arrogance, which usually comes in the form of proselytising. This behaviour generally leads to negative forms of argument and utter lack of productivity. This type of behaviour is displayed from both religious and non-religious people and both are managed equally.

 

[Riverwolf]

PROPHECIES
Here are a few. I’m giving you one from Daniel 8:3=23
This was written before Alexander the Great was born. Daniel ask God, what was the meaning of what he wrote. God replied these things are sealed until the time of the end. Since we understand the scripture, I assume we are in that time.
This Prophecy is about Alexander the Great. How he came to power. Alexander was the first king of Media and Persia. (you can read that in history.) The horn is power. Broken off is death. Dividing into four. His Generals divided up his empire into four parts. This Prophecy, like many others were written before the event. They came true.
　

How do you know they were written before the event, and how do you know that they're referring to Alexander?

Here are a few from Genesis. If you want, I will send you 10,000
Gen 3:19

That's not a prophecy; that's how someone described farming life. There are people who are allergic to bread.

Gen 3:22

That's not a prophecy, either; that's God saying that Adam and Eve might eat from the fruit of life and become gods, so he's going to prevent that.

Gen 5:24

How do you know Enoch even existed? Even if he did, that's supposed to be history, since it's placed in a genealogy; it's not a prophecy.

Gen 6:3

The oldest person who ever lived whose age is confirmed is 122 years.

Gen 8:22

I fail to see prophecy.

 

[Domenic]

Yeah, I'd have to say you're probably right about that. She certainly never mentioned anything of the sort. I would expect if I were a drama teacher and had been in or around any sort of movies, you can bet every student that ever graced my role sheet would know about it. But that's probably because I'm impossibly arrogant and self-absorbed. That's also probably why I'm not a drama teacher. Although... I can be pretty dramatic about myself, so maybe I could teach by example...

What do you think?

Yeah.
I would start of giving say one hour a week in Grade schools for free. Schools like this sort of stuff.
If that works out for you, share a small studio with someone, and see how many of the students you have had, will sign up. After say a year, put on a play at the school. and let the school make the money.. and go from there.

 

[Sir Doom]

...you really think I should be teaching grade school kids? What's wrong with you, man?!?



No, I have actually done some community theater though. Its a lot of fun and I'm not terrible at comedy (so I've heard from everyone in existence).

 

[Domenic]

How do you know they were written before the event, and how do you know that they're referring to Alexander?

That's not a prophecy; that's how someone described farming life. There are people who are allergic to bread.

That's not a prophecy, either; that's God saying that Adam and Eve might eat from the fruit of life and become gods, so he's going to prevent that.

How do you know Enoch even existed? Even if he did, that's supposed to be history, since it's placed in a genealogy; it's not a prophecy.

The oldest person who ever lived whose age is confirmed is 122 years.

I fail to see prophecy.

My friend, see what you see, and don't see what you don't see.

 

[Sir Doom]

My friend, see what you see, and don't see what you don't see.

That's not debate, my friend. Respond to their questions. Directly.

Why not? If it is fact it should be easy. Your play.