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I have another question for YOU to ignore

savagewind

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Premium Member
False can be good. fyi OK?

I will walk you through it.

IF Exodus 20:16 says, "against your neighbor", then Deuteronomy 24:10 should say it also.

When you make a loan of any kind to against your neighbor, do not go into their house to get what is offered to you as a pledge.

How does that work?
 

savagewind

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Premium Member
How many people in the history of the WHOLE world have ever even once been called up to witness against anybody?

This is a real question.

I think God thinks it is funny.

What does it mean?

All the commandments are for everyone except that one. That one is for a sorry few people EVER.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Sorry about that.

So what is the difference if we say you shall not bear your neighbor false witness. It means, don't lie.
That is correct. But please see that the command means do not lie to yourself about someone else.
There is no command about not lying about yourself, I think.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
False can be good. fyi OK?

I will walk you through it.

IF Exodus 20:16 says, "against your neighbor", then Deuteronomy 24:10 should say it also.

When you make a loan of any kind to against your neighbor, do not go into their house to get what is offered to you as a pledge.

How does that work?
It should not be the same thing, because it is not the same statement.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The difference is huge. It is the difference between noise and silence.

The command as it is known means speech must go along with it, or some kind of communication.

I am sure that what it actually means is thought. Thought is private.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Against is a preposition. A preposition is different than a noun. Someone thinks בְרֵעֲךָ֖ is a noun.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
That is correct. But please see that the command means do not lie to yourself about someone else.
There is no command about not lying about yourself, I think.
It means do not give false testimony (bearing false witness) about any other person. Do not lie about other people.

"The Ninth Commandment is designed to prevent slander and perversion of justice."
(http://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/lying-ninth-commandment/)


With regard to lying about yourself to others?
"You shall not circulate a false report." (Exodus 23:1)

This sure sounds like a commandment to me.

And with regard to lying about yourself to yourself; well, that's just plain stupid. And there is no commandment about being stupid.

However,
"There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers." (Proverbs 6:16-19)

"Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight."(Proverbs 12:22)

"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”" (Revelation 21:8)
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
The difference is huge. It is the difference between noise and silence.

The command as it is known means speech must go along with it, or some kind of communication.

I am sure that what it actually means is thought. Thought is private.
I think you should write your own Bible. The one that is already written doesn't seem to be working for you.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
It is the same word. You have just made it clear to me that YOU may add words ie meaning, but if I do YOU say it can't be right.
The same word is often used in more than one sentence. That doesn't mean that each sentence with the same word in it means the same thing. Context, context, context.
 
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