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I have another question for YOU to ignore

Hawkins

Well-Known Member
What do you mean? He is here to help us, so he is present, but he is returning. Tell me about that please.

Why. In nature God may be invisible to humans. However, it seems that choosing to appear in a human-like form is how He allows humans to 'see' Him.
 

moorea944

Well-Known Member
What do you mean? He is here to help us, so he is present, but he is returning. Tell me about that please.

Well, let me ask you this? What makes you think he's here now and for what purpose? And why is he hiding and not making himself know to the world?
 

moorea944

Well-Known Member
Scripture says humans will see Jesus again coming physically, like a human. Do you believe that?
Stephen saw him standing by God's throne. Was he physical then also?

Scripture says humans will see Jesus again coming physically, like a human. Do you believe that?

Yes... that's what i've been saying....

Stephen saw him standing by God's throne. Was he physical then also?

That was a vision. Like John in Patmos, like Elijah, etc....
 

moorea944

Well-Known Member
How do you know that every eye seeing him won't be visionary?

Because he is literally coming back. He will rule from Jerusalem. He will destroy the kingdoms of man. He will "set up" a kingdom for people. He will rule in righteousness. There is just so many verses... so many!
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Because he is literally coming back. He will rule from Jerusalem. He will destroy the kingdoms of man. He will "set up" a kingdom for people. He will rule in righteousness. There is just so many verses... so many!
I believe that for a disciple all those prophecies are fulfilled in HEART.
Jerusalem means Earth's throne of God. To a believer the kingdoms of the world are nothing. I do not know about a set up. The kingdom rules in the heart of a person when he gives up his own will for God's will be done. He can't not rule in righteousness. But as a man he can't be perfect. Men ****. Don't they?

When the man Jesus comes again and he must go to the bathroom, he will be vulnerable for a time. Won't he? Is God ever vulnerable in your opinion?
What about when he must sleep? Does the man not sleep?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Does Jesus come back in a human body? Does his human body eat, sleep and poop?
If it doesn't then it is not human.
If it is not human it is a graven image. Is it not?
If it is a spirit, then why can't he do the things now that he purposes to do then? How many more people must suffer so that God can make his grand entrance?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Is it sacrilege to write God and poop in the same sentence? Probably.

So why is it OK with most people that other people teach that Jesus who is God, but that doesn't matter, comes as a human? I am certain that all humans poop. Hi @Wirey
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
A question for the Jehovah's Witnesses. If there developed an evil heart in the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses and the evidence was indisputable, such that even a minor might realize it, what would you do? Who would you go too? Would you look for someone else to obey?
 

Wirey

Fartist
Is it sacrilege to write God and poop in the same sentence? Probably.

So why is it OK with most people that other people teach that Jesus who is God, but that doesn't matter, comes as a human? I am certain that all humans poop. Hi @Wirey

Can God squeeze out a poop so watery that He Himself can't wipe it?
 

allright

Active Member
This is fun!

It is written Jesus says, "get away from me".

Why does he say that?

Depart is a verb and away is a place. What will he tell them?

Matthew 7:22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

Matthew 7:22-23

He sends them to the lake of fire for living a life of unrepentant sin.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
He sends them to the lake of fire for living a life of unrepentant sin.
"Get away" implies action on the part of the one hearing him.
If someone told you, "Get away!", you could either ignore him or you would obey him and leave. Is there another option?
 

allright

Active Member
"Get away" implies action on the part of the one hearing him.
If someone told you, "Get away!", you could either ignore him or you would obey him and leave. Is there another option?

Hes talking about final judgement.

Mathew 25:41 " Depart from me you cursed into the everlasting fire"
Mathew 25:46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment"

no options, final judgement
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Hes talking about final judgement.

Mathew 25:41 " Depart from me you cursed into the everlasting fire"
Mathew 25:46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment"

no options, final judgement
I do not think that is what I am talking about. I am talking about the verb.

ἀπελεύσονται

aperchomai: to go away, go after
Original Word: ἀπέρχομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: aperchomai
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-erkh'-om-ahee)
Short Definition: I come or go away from, depart, return
Definition: I come or go away from, depart, return, arrive, go after, follow.

If death is the sentence with no options the person becomes dead. But Jesus uses a VERB.
He is telling them to do something. According to everyone He is telling them, "be destroyed".
I am sure a dead person can not go anywhere but he is telling them to go away.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
A living person can go away. Go is a verb and a verb means action. Would anyone who never heard from Jesus to obey him hear from him and then obey him to go away?

A dead person can't perform action and even if he could would he finally obey Jehovah and go away?
 
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