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Jesus Is the perfection of love and forgiveness. He is one third of the trinity. God Jesus Holyspirit. When all three come too town they come creating wonderous things in there wake. Most people call it luck,fortune,dreams,close call, not viewing things clearly. either most people see everything but the meriacle they are out there they do exist.Just see things the way they are.
 

Bowman

Active Member
You forget that the old semitic languages contained a lot of words that were combined into one. There is no Hebrew word for "If" either. Much like Arabic, it is assumed the word is there.

We all know what happens when you 'assume' something...
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Jesus is God even as declared in the NWT...
Who's he talking to as he's dying on the cross then, Joe his actual father?
"Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

How about . . . "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

and . . . "You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I"

In John 17:3, Jesus clearly sets himself in contrast to ‘the only one who is truly God’, the Father

Jesus is called the Son over 200 times throughout the N.T. The Father is referred to as distinct from the Son over 200 times. Over 50 times Jesus the Son and the Father are mentioned in the same verse.

John 10:30: " I and my father are one" this is not a numerical one, Jesus is not saying he is the father. they are not one person but in nature they are a united one. It actually reads we are one in Greek the first person plural esmen . Examining his claim further "I and my Father are one."
 

Bowman

Active Member
Who's he talking to as he's dying on the cross then, Joe his actual father?
"Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

God the Father.

How about . . . "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

God the Father.



and . . . "You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I"

What is the perspective, brother...?




In John 17:3, Jesus clearly sets himself in contrast to ‘the only one who is truly God’, the Father

Separate, and yet the same, if you take all scripture into account...of which, you clearly do not...

You need to become cognizant of all scripture to understand the Trinity, brother.



Jesus is called the Son over 200 times throughout the N.T. The Father is referred to as distinct from the Son over 200 times. Over 50 times Jesus the Son and the Father are mentioned in the same verse.

Separate and yet the same.

Perhaps you need to read Revelation and see this clearly brought to the surface.



John 10:30: " I and my father are one" this is not a numerical one, Jesus is not saying he is the father. they are not one person but in nature they are a united one. It actually reads we are one in Greek the first person plural esmen . Examining his claim further "I and my Father are one."

The father and the Son are both the same God.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Jesus is God even as declared in the NWT...

do you have an example of a verse you are referring to so i can check it out?

There are many examples of where he claims to be Gods son, but none that I can think of where he declares himself to be God.

John 10:31 Once more the Jews lifted up stones to stone him. 32 Jesus replied to them: “I displayed to YOU many fine works from the Father. For which of those works are YOU stoning me?” 33 The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy, even because you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “YOU are gods”’? 35 If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified, 36 do YOU say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son?

John 5:18 'On this account, indeed, the Jews began seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath but he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God.
('making himself equal to God' in this verse does not mean that he claimed to be God....rather, the jews did not believe that Jesus had an existence WITH God in heaven because that would make Jesus more then human. Jesus WAS more then human, but that doesnt make him God Almighty. He was originally a spirit in heaven who lived with God along with the rest of the Angels.)

Some other verses which show the disciples did not ever believe Jesus was God Almighty:

Luke 1:34 "But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am having no intercourse with a man?” 35 In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s Son"

Matthew 14:32 "And after they got up into the boat, the windstorm abated. 33 Then those in the boat did obeisance to him, saying: “You are really God’s Son.”

Matthew 16:13...Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E‧li′jah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Acts 9:19 'He (Apostle Paul) got to be for some days with the disciples in Damascus, 20 and immediately in the synagogues he began to preach Jesus, that this One is the Son of God.

Hebrews 1:1 "God, who long ago spoke on many occasions and in many ways to our forefathers by means of the prophets, 2 has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son"

Matthew 17:5 'While he was yet speaking, look! a bright cloud overshadowed them, and, look! a voice out of the cloud, saying: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved; listen to him.”

John 3:17 'For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.'
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
If there was indeed a God, Jesus would be His manifestation on this earthly plane, just like our 'Children' are. This so called God is the Father of this mythical Jesus. It is plain and simply stated all over your scriptures. That some of you 'Christians' re-interpret it otherwise is exactly what Muslims seem to be doing with their scriptures. A common practice amongst Abrahamic religions when the current message no longer seems adequate.

Phooey!
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
Please show us the Arabic words...'O Muhammad'.....and 'if'.....

Good luck...

If: إن

Oh Muhammad : The missing pronoun in قل Say , we call it Damir Mustatir , hidden pronoun is pointing to Muhamamd peace be upon him.

If I was sending you a message telling Say ( without referring to you) , would you be thinking Im talking to the one sitting next to you?

Please dont take profit of people ignorance of the Arabic language.

Btw, do you speak arabic?
 

Bowman

Active Member
do you have an example of a verse you are referring to so i can check it out?



ο νικων κληρονομησει ταυτα και εσομαι αυτω θεος και αυτος εσται μοι υιος

ho nikao kleronomeo houtos kai esomai autos theos kai autos esomai moi huios

The one overcoming will inherit all things, and I will be God to him, and he will be the son to Me. (Rev 21.7)




Observe that “Theos” is in the nominative case, indicating that Jesus is the subject of the verb “esomai” establishing Him as God.

Further, observe that Jesus establishes that His deity is directly interchangeable with the Father, making the ones overcoming, the sons to Him.
 

Bowman

Active Member
If: إن

Oh Muhammad : The missing pronoun in قل Say , we call it Damir Mustatir , hidden pronoun is pointing to Muhamamd peace be upon him.

If I was sending you a message telling Say ( without referring to you) , would you be thinking Im talking to the one sitting next to you?

Please dont take profit of people ignorance of the Arabic language.

Btw, do you speak arabic?


إن= “in”

“in” definition:

Particle. Used in various ways: first as a conditional particle, denoting the happening of the second of two events in consequence of the happening of the first, whether the second be immediate or deferred, and whether the condition be affirmation or negative. It has an affirmative meaning, and may generally be rendered verily, or indeed; If; when; not; because. It can be a negative; redundant; conditional.

References:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume one, pp. 106 - 108
A Grammar of the Arabic Language, W. Wright, Third edition, volume 1, pp. 283 - 285; volume 2, pp. 300 - 301
The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar p. 35
A Dictionary and Glossary of the Koran, John Penrice, p. 11


The Koran already repeatedly establishes that Jesus is the Son...thus, there is no need to render this 'if'.

And....no....your "Muhammad" is not referenced...unless, of course, "Muhammad" refers to Jesus...
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
ο νικων κληρονομησει ταυτα και εσομαι αυτω θεος και αυτος εσται μοι υιος

ho nikao kleronomeo houtos kai esomai autos theos kai autos esomai moi huios

The one overcoming will inherit all things, and I will be God to him, and he will be the son to Me. (Rev 21.7)




Observe that “Theos” is in the nominative case, indicating that Jesus is the subject of the verb “esomai” establishing Him as God.

Further, observe that Jesus establishes that His deity is directly interchangeable with the Father, making the ones overcoming, the sons to Him.

you are assuming that in this verse the one speaking from the throne is Jesus, however, nowhere does the verse directly state that it is Jesus speaking.

From my interlinear, the account reads:

Rev 21:3 'And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will tabernacle with them and they will be his people and He himself will be with them
Vs5 'and said the one sitting on the throne, behold new I make all things and he says write because these words are faithful and true, VS 6 'And he said to me they have come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end....VS 7 The one overcoming will inherit these things and I will be to him God and he will be to me a son.


When you look at the passage in context, it is the one sitting on the throne who is speaking and saying he will be God to the one who is overcoming. It doesnt state that the one sitting on the throne is Jesus.

If you look back at Revelation 4:2-8, the one sitting on the heavenly throne is receiving worship from the all those who dwell in heaven. He is called Lord God the Almighty. Never is Jesus called 'the Almighty' anywhere in the bible.

Rev 4:2 After these things I immediately came to be in [the power of the] spirit: and, look! a throne was in its position in heaven, and there is one seated upon the throne. 3 And the one seated is, in appearance, like a jasper stone and a precious red-colored stone...8 And as for the four living creatures, each one of them respectively has six wings; round about and underneath they are full of eyes. And they have no rest day and night as they say: “Holy, holy, holy Lord God, the Almighty, the one who was and the one being and the one coming'


And this idea that Jesus is different to The Almighty is borne out from the Apostle Pauls where he goes on to tell us that, when Jesus comes to the end of his thousand-year reign, Jesus, in turn, subjects himself to the One who subjected all things to him. Why? “That God may be all things to everyone.”

1 Cor. 15:28 'But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.' By Jesus subjecting himself to God, it shows that Jesus is not the Almighty...that position is held only by one...the God of the OT named Jehovah. So it is Jehovah who says 'I will be God to him' in the above verse you've quoted.
 
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Bowman

Active Member
you are assuming that in this verse the one speaking from the throne is Jesus, however, nowhere does the verse directly state that it is Jesus speaking.

From my interlinear, the account reads:

Rev 21:3 'And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will tabernacle with them and they will be his people and He himself will be with them
Vs5 'and said the one sitting on the throne, behold new I make all things and he says write because these words are faithful and true, VS 6 'And he said to me they have come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end....VS 7 The one overcoming will inherit these things and I will be to him God and he will be to me a son.

When you look at the passage in context, it is the one sitting on the throne who is speaking and saying he will be God to the one who is overcoming. It doesnt state that the one sitting on the throne is Jesus.

If you look back at Revelation 4:2-8, the one sitting on the heavenly throne is receiving worship from the all those who dwell in heaven. He is called Lord God the Almighty. Never is Jesus called 'the Almighty' anywhere in the bible.

Rev 4:2 After these things I immediately came to be in [the power of the] spirit: and, look! a throne was in its position in heaven, and there is one seated upon the throne. 3 And the one seated is, in appearance, like a jasper stone and a precious red-colored stone...8 And as for the four living creatures, each one of them respectively has six wings; round about and underneath they are full of eyes. And they have no rest day and night as they say: “Holy, holy, holy Lord God, the Almighty, the one who was and the one being and the one coming'


And this idea that Jesus is different to The Almighty is borne out from the Apostle Pauls where he goes on to tell us that, when Jesus comes to the end of his thousand-year reign, Jesus, in turn, subjects himself to the One who subjected all things to him. Why? “That God may be all things to everyone.”

1 Cor. 15:28 'But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.' By Jesus subjecting himself to God, it shows that Jesus is not the Almighty...that position is held only by one...the God of the OT named Jehovah. So it is Jehovah who says 'I will be God to him' in the above verse you've quoted.



Theos and Jesus both occupy the one Throne, as thus…

και εδειξεν μοι ποταμον υδατος ζωης λαμπρον ως κρυσταλλον εκπορευομενον εκ του θρονου του θεου και του αρνιου εν μεσω της πλατειας αυτης και του ποταμου εντευθεν και εκειθεν ξυλον ζωης ποιουν καρπους δωδεκα κατα μηνα εκαστον αποδιδουν τον καρπον αυτου και τα φυλλα του ξυλου εις θεραπειαν των εθνων και παν καταθεμα ουκ εσται ετι και ο θρονος του θεου και του αρνιου εν αυτη εσται και οι δουλοι αυτου λατρευσουσιν αυτω και οψονται το προσωπον αυτου και το ονομα αυτου επι των μετωπων αυτων

kaideiknuomoi potamos hudor zoe lamproshoskrustallos ekporeuomaiek hothronoshotheoskaihoarnionenmesoshoplateiaautoskaihopotamosenteuthenkaienteuthenxulonzoepoieokarposdodekakatamenhekastosapodidomihokarposautoskaihophullonhoxuloneistherapeiahoethnoskaipas katanathema ouesomai ekeikai hothronos hotheoskaiho arnion enautos esomai kaihodoulos autos latreuoautos kaioptanomaiho prosoponautos kaihoonoma autos epiho metoponautos

And he showed me a river of water of life, clear/white as crystal, coming forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of its street and of the river, from here and from there, was a Tree of life producing twelve fruits: according to one month each yielding its fruit. And the leaves of the tree were for healing of the nations. And every curse will no longer be. And the throne of God and the Lamb will be in it; and His slaves will worship Him. And they will see His face; and His name will be on their foreheads. (Rev 22.1 – 4)



Observe that Revelation chapter 22 declares that both the Water of Life and the Tree of Life are intertwined with one another, and emanate from the singular throne of God and the Lamb.

Although both God and the Lamb are identified, they are treated as one entity, one God, via the prolific usage of singular personal pronouns and singular nouns:

  • One Throne (thronos)
  • His (autos) slaves
  • Worship Him (autos)
  • His (autos) face (prosopon)
  • His (autos) name (onoma)
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Jesus certainly has been given the throne of God. However, this is in the same way that the human kings of Isreal were said to sit on the throne of God
1 Chronicles 29:23 'And Sol′o‧mon began to sit upon Jehovah’s throne as king in place of David his father and to make a success of it, and all the Israelites were obedient to him.'

Jesus is the one God Almighty (YWHY) is using to bring mankind back into harmony with himself, and for that reason he gives Jesus authority to rule the throne from heaven. But this is only for a short time.
When Jesus completes the task God set for him, he will hand over the throne back to God Jehovah who will once again be the universal ruler.

1Corinthians 15:24 Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.


So yes, Jesus is in the highest position for a while, but notice that Paul emphasizes the fact that Jesus position is still relative to Gods ultimate authority
26...'But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him'

then finally Jesus hands back the throne to his father Jehovah when mankind are brought back into harmony with him, they become his children
28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.

You see, Jesus role is to bring mankind back to God. He works in union with God to achieve that purpose as Rev 7:15 shows:
15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”

Now go back to Revelation 21:3:

'With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them.'

What we see in the book of Revelation are two individuals being spoken of. The Lord Jesus, who is the lamb of God...the one who shepherds the nations. And God who is the Almighty/Alpha/Omega who spreads his tent over mankind.
 
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Bowman

Active Member
Jesus certainly has been given the throne of God. However, this is in the same way that the human kings of Isreal were said to sit on the throne of God
1 Chronicles 29:23 'And Sol′o‧mon began to sit upon Jehovah’s throne as king in place of David his father and to make a success of it, and all the Israelites were obedient to him.'

How many human kings were worshiped as God while upon the Throne?

Observe...


και παν κτισμα ο εντωουρανω και επιτηςγης καιυποκατω τηςγης καιεπι της θαλασσης [εστιν] καιτα εν αυτοις πανταηκουσα λεγοντας τωκαθημενω επι τουθρονου και τω αρνιωη ευλογια καιη τιμηκαι η δοξακαι το κρατοςεις τουςαιωνας των αιωνωνκαι τα τεσσαρα ζωα ελεγον αμην και οι πρεσβυτεροι επεσαν και προσεκυνησαν

kaipasktismahosenhoouranoskaiepihogekaihupokatohogekaiepihothalassakaihoenautospasakouolegohokathemaiepihothronoskaihoarnionhoeulogiakaihotimekaihodoxakaihokratoseishoaionhoaionkaihotessareszoonlegoamenandhopresbuterospiptokaiproskuneo

And every creature in Heaven, and upon the earth, and underneath the earth, and upon the sea, and the things in all of them, I heard saying: To Him sitting on the throne, and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the power forever and ever. And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders fell down and worshiped. (Rev 5.13 – 14)



Observe that a distinction is made between the one sitting on the Throne and the Lamb, and yet both entities are treated as one, as they both receive:

  • Singular blessing “eulogia”
  • Singular honor “time”
  • Singular glory “doxa” (i.e. worship)
  • Singular power “kratos”


Then, after The Lamb (i.e. Jesus Christ) is proclaimed as the same entity as God (i.e. the one sitting on the Throne)…then the elders fall-down and worship “proskuno” both Jesus & God with no distinction whatsoever!
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One

And every creature in Heaven, and upon the earth, and underneath the earth, and upon the sea, and the things in all of them, I heard saying: To Him sitting on the throne, and to the Lamb be the blessing and the honor and the glory and the power forever and ever. And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders fell down and worshiped. (Rev 5.13 – 14)

Observe that a distinction is made between the one sitting on the Throne and the Lamb, and yet both entities are treated as one, as they both receive:

  • Singular blessing “eulogia”
  • Singular honor “time”
  • Singular glory “doxa” (i.e. worship)
  • Singular power “kratos”


Then, after The Lamb (i.e. Jesus Christ) is proclaimed as the same entity as God (i.e. the one sitting on the Throne)…then the elders fall-down and worship “proskuno” both Jesus & God with no distinction whatsoever!

Jesus is not proclaimed as the same entity in that verse. As you admit, a distinction is made between the two. Jesus authority is not in question here.

The reason why the elders bow down before both of them is because God gave Jesus 'all authority in heaven and on earth' so that in heaven and on earth, every knee will bend

John 17:1, 2 “Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you, according as you have given him authority over all flesh,...”

Philipians 2:9-11 'For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father"

There is still a distinction between Jesus and Jehovah though. Jesus is Lord 'to the glory of God the Father'
 
John 14:28
YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.
Jesus acknowledged that he has a God, superior to him.


jesus was humble....

why?

2Ch 36:12 And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD his God, and humbled not himself


he(jesus) was perfect, he knew no evil, he is a lamb without spot to god, he can then take upon our sin, paying our penalty and he died for our sins, out of love through grace, displaying mercy for all who receive.


he humbled himself in the form of a servant/flesh .....


Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
 
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Luminous

non-existential luminary
Jesus is a god,
Allah is a god,
Thor is a god,
Amen-Ra is a di-un god,
Christ is a tri-un god,
Buddha is a god,
Tsukuyomi is a god,
Zeus is a god,
Ahura Mazda is a god,
Shiva Vishnu is a god,
Anu is a god,
Aramazd is a god,
Viracocha is a god,
Matres is a god,
Perun is a god,
Izanagi is a god,
Quetzalcoatl is a god,
Nohochacyum is a god,
Ahsonnutli is a god,
Gitche Manitou is a god,
Waaq is a god,
Nyame is a god,
Cagn is a god,
Achamán is a god,
Sanat Kumara is a god,
etc
...
gods are in your imagination.
 

Bowman

Active Member
Jesus is not proclaimed as the same entity in that verse.

Separate and yet the same.

Observe the usage of the singular.



As you admit, a distinction is made between the two. Jesus authority is not in question here.

Separate and yet the same.

Observe the usage of the singular.




The reason why the elders bow down before both of them is because God gave Jesus 'all authority in heaven and on earth' so that in heaven and on earth, every knee will bend

John 17:1, 2 “Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you, according as you have given him authority over all flesh,...”

Philipians 2:9-11 'For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father"

There is still a distinction between Jesus and Jehovah though. Jesus is Lord 'to the glory of God the Father'

Clearly, as Revelation plainly declares, Jesus is God.

Jesus is worship as the singular God.

There simply is no way out of this.

Further, this is contained in the NWT.

You should study it sometime...
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Separate and yet the same.

Observe the usage of the singular.

a singular 'throne' is what is being discussed in that verse... but certainly not singular identities as you have acknowledged.

Can two identities rule from one throne? yes they can. God allowed men to sit on his throne to govern the Isrealites, and yet Jehovah was still the God whom they obeyed.

And with regard to a 'throne'... there is no physical throne in heaven. Nothing physical exists up there.
But the throne being occupied by Jesus and Jehovah represents 'authority' just as the earthly throne of the Davidic kings represented Jehovahs authority.

Clearly, as Revelation plainly declares, Jesus is God.

Jesus is worship as the singular God.

There simply is no way out of this.

Further, this is contained in the NWT.

You should study it sometime...

Considering you used a scripture discussing the singular throne, I dont know how you can come to the conclusion that Jesus is God.

They both have authority, Jehovah because he is the Almighty and Jesus because he has been granted to have such authority.
So, they are two separate identities who both sit with the same authority, although as i've shown you from Pauls words, Jesus will one day relinquish his authority and so the only authority that we will all serve at that time is Jehovah.

How do you justify Pauls words at 1Corinthians?
 
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Hos 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
 
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