stvdv
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China's "Big Brother watches you" attitude causes this also. In world war 2 we had the "NSB" ratting out each other; tough on mental health for sure.
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I swear to god that i'm a non believer
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China's "Big Brother watches you" attitude causes this also. In world war 2 we had the "NSB" ratting out each other; tough on mental health for sure.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Trueas no one knows what their end will be
That is what I meant. Your addition shows exactly what I meant "religious people deep down can't admit atheism is fine also". They always give a smart twist, not openly admitting just "True". Or never adding something respectful like "True, as an atheist you can also reach the highest goal God has for a human; no need to be a theist".
Or did I misinterpret your line "True
as no one knows what their end will be"
Shantanu
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Any nation that wants to be economic superpower has a State-surveillance system upon its citizens to deal with detractors to economic attainments.
You can have views but are they also supported by evidence? If not it is Athiest Faith
This may give other thoughts as to what causes war;
Is Religion the Cause of Most Wars? | HuffPost
Regards Tony
There is a 100% lack of evidence. Tell me, do you believe harry potter is real?
As for evidence i cite the fact that matter exists, childhood leukemia, the mosquito and the futility of prayer as evidence.
Yet the fact remains that in recorded history there have been more wars and more people killed in those wars when one side or both have been fighting in the name of their god than any other single cause.
Your link was of course written by a religions person so not any way biased.
17% is quite low considering that every year approximately 20% (or more) of us experience mental health problems.
A bank suggests 25% of its customers have a mental health issues
So once again i suggest research is the key to citing a topic that you hope justifies your claim
Mental Health By the Numbers | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness
Statistics | Mental Health Foundation
Data and resources
We do not count as virtue believing things without even a shred of evidence, in general.
Do you?
Ciao
- viole
What first cause?
That is logically absurd. If, as I expect, you believe that God belongs to the set of things that exist, then your statement entails that God is by God.
The answer to what? Why black holes exist, for instance?
Ciao
- viole
wandering peacefully
Which way to the woods?
I have come to the conclusion, after years of seeing atheists trying to explain what atheism is to theists, it is just not possible. Language wise it is very simple and they can understand the individual words. But putting the words together as a concept is just impossible for those who believe gods or God is a real physical or worse a non-physical entity.
An atheist does not believe God or gods as described by theists of all stripes are real things. They lack belief in the concepts put forth by theists.
Some atheists go further by positing it is impossible for gods to exist. It well may be. A lot of atheists say we can't know for sure as of yet because science and knowledge of the universe is still in a learning stage.
But all atheists reject the millions of different ideas man has dreamt up about Gods and the formed religions around their versions of gods. They all lack proof of their claims.
Even with saying this, theists who believe God is a real thing will not be able to understand. Their brains are unable to process these concepts because they are so certain God is real. It is like trying to convince yourself that the face you are looking at in a mirror really doesn't belong to you. Or your mother who was proven to have birthed you, is not your biological mother. It is such a part of who they are it is impossible for it not to be real.
But it is still entertaining, although somewhat frustrating at times, to watch them try. Especially the explanations by theists with pages of diatribe on what atheists "believe" and how their lives are lived and what horrible humans they are.
Only an atheist can truly understand atheism. Hence the continued conversations between theists and a-theists.
An atheist does not believe God or gods as described by theists of all stripes are real things. They lack belief in the concepts put forth by theists.
Some atheists go further by positing it is impossible for gods to exist. It well may be. A lot of atheists say we can't know for sure as of yet because science and knowledge of the universe is still in a learning stage.
But all atheists reject the millions of different ideas man has dreamt up about Gods and the formed religions around their versions of gods. They all lack proof of their claims.
Even with saying this, theists who believe God is a real thing will not be able to understand. Their brains are unable to process these concepts because they are so certain God is real. It is like trying to convince yourself that the face you are looking at in a mirror really doesn't belong to you. Or your mother who was proven to have birthed you, is not your biological mother. It is such a part of who they are it is impossible for it not to be real.
But it is still entertaining, although somewhat frustrating at times, to watch them try. Especially the explanations by theists with pages of diatribe on what atheists "believe" and how their lives are lived and what horrible humans they are.
Only an atheist can truly understand atheism. Hence the continued conversations between theists and a-theists.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Unless the highest goal is "To Know and Love"
Some might "believe" i am an atheist in that i dont believe in god. A believer and a non believer will automatically have the same identical reaction to my statement " i dont believe in god" but that assumption is total nonsensical fantasy., in that regard i am the minority and difficult to understand by theists. A theist either "believes," "does not believe or is" agnostic. " they just disagree on minor details intellectually is all. Its spectral not specific . That should be a duh in science since all neurology is in fact spectral.
I could say i am an animist but even that wont be understood by theists in spectrum as i have defined theism. It automatically will be synthesized by the spectrum of theism intellectually as "oh he believes xyz" that is pure reductive theistic nonsense.
Very theistic on spectrum of you.
Since your understanding exists of topic at the creationism level i agree all evidence how you understand the topic is illogical irrelevant and fantasy driven. Science has in fact shown what you understand about the topic is wrong. I have no capacity to change your view or creationists, intelligent designists, or what ever any other fantasy driven narrative develops in theism "i believe, i dont believe i am agnostic. Its singular and its spectral.
Lol, i like mosquitos, i finally realized it keeps the forests and wilder places from being over run by pests!!!! Otherwise the jungle book ride would be everywhere!!!
Besides mosquitos are like snow, and one does not venture out into the snow storm in a swimsuit. Unless they are nuts which i call "normal" lol.
So where am i wrong, where is it illogically irrelevant, where is it fantasy driven?
Dont pontificate, put your money where your mouth is
And who said anything about agnostic??? Or, you fdid
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
That is a problem.
It may be that Athiests think that God is something tangible to the material senses, some theists may have given that impression.
If we use science we can get a better concept of what is God. The thing here is, is that God is all we do know in this material world and all creation, all we are yet to know in this world and all creation and all we can not know in both this world and all creation.
God is the cause. Science are yet to name the cause, at one time I heard some scientists call it the 'Love Force'.
So is it not time that Both Religion and Science work together? A united mind builds, a divide mind demolishes.
Peace be with all, regards Tony
What do you not understand about the definition of atheism? It is quite clear and i know that i have pointed it out to you on several occasions.
Science does not address gods, it only works with the natural world.
Assumption, no cause is required
Science would work with religion on limited, measurable, observable, falsifiable topics id religion would stop misrepresenting science.
Some scientists are yet to acknowledge what is of God in the natural world.
I have great confidence in science that is in harmony with religion.
Science without religion will be the fall of humanity.
Of course you do not have to agree and no matter what I can offer, you will not, but it was you that did declare your non beleif to God as the Op heading, albeit sarcasim.
Regards Tony
No scientist in the course of their work acknowledges god. Although some few very few percent do acknowledge god in their personal life.
So why all the religious folk dissing science? Could it be because science is filling in the gaps that religion has traditionally filled with god.
Science is doing pretty well at preserving humanity with no religious involvement
What sarcasm? Sorry that you have such difficulty understanding the whole concept of atheism, it seems a totally alien concept to you, so much so that you need to fill in the gap it creates with stories of god.
Both Science and Religion are given by God.
That is why Faith is a solid foundation.
Stay well and happy, I wish you the best in life, regards Tony