I was just thinking

[Brickjectivity]

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?

This has to do with answering "What does Catholic mean?" The Roman Catholic church is an institution that is full of I think superstitions. They are very slow to change, and I mean very slow. They do not, however, have a monopoly on the word 'Catholic'. If you are gay and if you believe you should get married, then you are at odds officially with that institution currently. Some people will come to your wedding and some won't.

Your friend strikes me as someone who has never had to think deeply on this issue. That is typical.

 

[Jollybear]

(I read it)

Hmm. Isnt that like saying if two gay christians were to marry, their marriage would be a stumbling block to god?

Um.... not exactly. The way i read that is that God grants the freedom to go to the celebrations that have sinful activities happen. And by going its NOT sinful of itself. Thats how i read that.

There are even christians who deny a person from being a real christian given they are LGBTQ rather than people who can engage in the same activities as straights. Kinda like LGBTQ has the copyrights to same-sex activities

No one can help it if they feel homosexual tendencies.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Hm.

Um.... not exactly. The way i read that is that that God grants the freedom to go to the celebrations that have sinful activities happen. And by going its NOT sinful of itself. Thats how i read that.

Yeah. She was uncomfortable going because she felt it promoted sin/murder. I dont know how I would go about it if I were her. Most likely, Id say that I felt uncomfortable if I went to your wedding or in so many words. Which is fine whether she goes or not. The thing is associating marriage with murder got me.

Sin is sin, I understand that. The nature of both sins sex vs murder, I cant see the connection. Not because they are sins but the nature of those sins (my friend aside)

No one can help it how they feel.

It sounded like you felt the same way about them forcing their beliefs on you. Of course, no one can help how you feel; but, it came across both sides feeling the same way. Its clouds both of you guys views when it comes to equal rights and setting boundaries. Im not an activist; so, I can see how it affects you too.

 

[Jollybear]

Hm.


Yeah. She was uncomfortable going because she felt it promoted sin/murder. I dont know how I would go about it if I were her. Most likely, Id say that I felt uncomfortable if I went to your wedding or in so many words. Which is fine whether she goes or not. The thing is associating marriage with murder got me.

Sin is sin, I understand that. The nature of both sins sex vs murder, I cant see the connection. Not because they are sins but the nature of those sins (my friend aside)

I take it the friend does not want to go to the wedding because ahe believes in the bible right?

If so, she should read that section about where paul says its fine to actually go to the celebrations.

1 corinthians 10 is another

"7If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. 29I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? 30If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?"

The principle is the same for being invited to a homosexual wedding. One is free to go according to the bible.

You said shes catholic right?

 

[dianaiad]

I can see what you are saying. Some of the things (for another thread) are more or less false outside of your religious views; and, it does cloud what your are saying in my opinion. These two things that caught me.


Its not forcing her. Gays dont force people to accept them and all of that.

Yeah. Some do.

Those who sue bakers and photographers, forcing them to provide services that are against their religions are doing precisely that.

But, I did tell her it is an insult. Whether she goes or not is her choice. Her opinions and choices doesnt exclude her insults. My co-worker said to me I will go t hell. While I didnt challenge her, it is still an insult. Doesnt matter if its a religion or so have you.

Sure it's an insult. It's not something I would do, certainly. However, when a gay couple sues a photographer and forces him/her to 'shoot' a wedding that violates the photographer's religion, THAT is an insult, too. Far more of one, actually, since the photographer really is being forced to accept/participate in something s/he finds to be very, very wrong.

But with the Paganism thing, with my OP, that doesnt compare. Taking a life and having sex (or going Skyclad) are two different actions. The nature of the sin between murder and sex is what I am questioning not whether or not she will support it.

Her comparison of a gay wedding to murder is pretty weird. That's why I used the skyclad dance to a pagan goddess as a comparison rather than the taking of a life. It's a far better analogy.

I think, anyway.

The insult is she compared my love for my spouse (fiction) to murder, not whether or not she wants to come to the wedding. I known her for over ten years; so, the analogy of the wedding is not near the point as to why sex and murder and skyclad all go together. Sex, nakedness, and murder? That puzzles the mess out of me.

I THINK she was trying to emphasize how seriously she took it, not literally comparing taking a life to getting married, but I could be wrong.

Yes. That is my point. It is an insult. It doesnt have to do with her supporting my marriage. It isnt an insult that she doesnt come. It is an insult to compare my marriage with murder.

Hmm. Would you consider going to (my) wedding supporting the wedding?

We ARE talking about ME here, right? I would consider going to your wedding as supporting you in your life choices. You don't share my beliefs, and my standards/beliefs regarding what marriage is doesn't apply to you. I don't see why my beliefs SHOULD apply to you. True, *I* don't think you are getting married in the eyes of God, but you don't believe as I do about that, so what I think doesn't matter. Go. enjoy. I think I know where to get a really cute cake topper.

Go. get the license. Get married in the eyes of the law, and in the eyes of the version of God you believe in. Be happy. Have a nice life. I can support that.

I dont know if you feel gay people are forcing their rights on you. Thats what it sounds like. Christians act similar and even killed others because they felt they were victims and pagans the accusers. Then it flip flopped.

yes. Some are. And yes, Christians have done the same. I don't like it either way.

Remember; I'm LDS (Mormon). I have three sets of polygamous great grandparents. Given what the government (and the good Christian neighbors) forced on US, you can imagine that I'm not a fan of legislating religious observance, no matter who does it.

But, yeah. I know gay activists (not gay people as a whole) are flamboyant (no pun intended) in their way of gaining rights they, as humans, are entitled.

NOBODY IS ENTITLED to force someone else to support religious beliefs they do not share.

Period.

I disagree with the how-myself. What puzzles me is why do many of you think because of how they act influences your beliefs?

"How they act?"

Lawsuits. Kinda hard to argue with that.

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[Kenny]

Was thinking about my former Catholic friend. We talked about relationships. Then, when I asked her if she would come to my wedding (if I had one). She said that was akin to murder.

I just thought this a contradiction.

Catholics have prison ministries. They help people be with Christ and so forth. They don't promote the crime but they are beyond that and doing gods work.

If she came to my wedding, it would be (to her) just going to a prison. But instead of helping and supporting the prisoners in christ, she turns me down who have not committed murder.

Christians, does that make sense?

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?

I wouldn't be harsh in this situation. Remember, Jesus was The Word made manifest, your friend is human.

There are different stages of growth in a Christian walk. Taking it in a regular human growth sense, you could be asking a bay Christian or even a "youth" Christian to act like a mature adult.

People see things differently just as Romans 14 talks about.

One could at least say that she "was your friend" and probably ate with you but for her it may be beyond her level of faith to be at your wedding and cause her to stumble in her faith.

There are many things I do now that I didn't when I first gave my life to Christ. In some sense, it may have been necessary as a "baby Christian" but you grow and change.

Be the better one and still be her friend.

 

[DustyFeet]

what happens next?

What happens next all depends on the individuals involved and what there like.

thank you so much for clarifying, i see now where i made my mistake

i'm still reading the latest posts; i'm going to try not to reply to them, my initial impression is:

" this is a really great convo... dusty, get out of the way "

however we do have the opportunity to find out what happened...

I was a practicing catholic then

... was ...

Unveiled Artist, forgive me if this is too personal, but, did this experience distance you from your faith? did it discourage from being Catholic? I am learning so much from reading your posts, and i feel like you found your way to something spiritually constructive. But what if? what if being Catholic was your only way, for your soul to find peace. It would be sad, that someone's rule and rude comments interrupted your spiritual path.

my larger question is, again, i'm sorry to repeat:

is the prohibition more destructive than the transgression?

enforcing a rule based on who, not what, needs to be handled delicately by someone who cares, ideally someone who is spiritually sensitive, someone who knows the parties involved. someone who assesses each situation on a case by case basis. and in this place, at this time in our collective history, even the way we speak about these rules of exclusion can be so damaging and discouraging.

on the other hand, if your friends words are just part of the journey, words that always existed and always were said, and that the event brought you to this place where you are now... was it bad? was it damaging? i imagine it was discouraging in the moment, but can i say definitively that it was damaging? i don't know

did the ends justify the means?

OP, your thoughts?

 

[SomeRandom]

Yeah. Some do.

Those who sue bakers and photographers, forcing them to provide services that are against their religions are doing precisely that.



Sure it's an insult. It's not something I would do, certainly. However, when a gay couple sues a photographer and forces him/her to 'shoot' a wedding that violates the photographer's religion, THAT is an insult, too. Far more of one, actually, since the photographer really is being forced to accept/participate in something s/he finds to be very, very wrong.

If those bakers and photographers all have screening processes to eliminate from their clientele divorcees, people who had sex before wedlock and people who are on their second marriage then I wholeheartedly agree with you. I mean if sin is sin, we can't just deny gay marriages such services. All sin should be treated equally, is that not what is constantly argued?
If however those same bakers and photographers do not take action to avoid providing services to those sinners and only avoid serving gay couples, then they are nothing but hypocrites hiding behind their religion. Hypocrisy in the name of Jesus is still hypocrisy. And if memory serves He spoke against such a thing.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Was thinking about my former Catholic friend. We talked about relationships. Then, when I asked her if she would come to my wedding (if I had one). She said that was akin to murder.

I just thought this a contradiction.

Catholics have prison ministries. They help people be with Christ and so forth. They don't promote the crime but they are beyond that and doing gods work.

If she came to my wedding, it would be (to her) just going to a prison. But instead of helping and supporting the prisoners in christ, she turns me down who have not committed murder.

Christians, does that make sense?

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?

I have to wonder if she would have refused to attend any wedding that didn't take place in a Catholic church, since Catholics believe that only marriages sanctioned by the Catholic Church are legitimate in the eyes of God. Would she have also refused to attend if you were two heterosexual baptists or protestants getting married? After all, if the marriage isn't legitimate in the eyes of God, wouldn't the ceremony be a celebration of them planning to live in sin, just as much as a wedding between homosexuals would be seen as a celebration of their plan to live in sin?

 

[Dawnofhope]

Hi adrian009

would u please share more of the Baha'i perspective on this matter? these dusty feet have very much appreciated your kind and gentle approach in other areas. I expect your words will be very... productive... at least for me.

The Baha'i perspective is clear.

1/ Associate with peoples of all faiths in a spirit of love and fellowship.

2/ If someone has 10 good qualities and 1 bad quality, look at the 10 good qualities. If someone has 1 good quality and 10 bad qualities, look at the 1 good quality.

3/ Only Baha'is are obligated to strive to live in accordance with the high standards set by our founder. For the most part, how we live up to those standards is between ourselves and God and not anyone else. Baha'is should not impose our values on others. We don't judge people according to whether or not they live a Baha'i life.

4/ Gay marriage is legal in my country as is discrimination against gays. Baha'is are required to follow the laws of our land.

Hope that helps.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I take it the friend does not want to go to the wedding because ahe believes in the bible right?

If so, she should read that section about where paul says its fine to actually go to the celebrations.

1 corinthians 10 is another

"7If an unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, both for the sake of the one who told you and for the sake of conscience. 29I am referring to the other person’s conscience, not yours. For why is my freedom being judged by another’s conscience? 30If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?"

The principle is the same for being invited to a homosexual wedding. One is free to go according to the bible.

You said shes catholic right?

Yes. The catholic church considers homosexuals disordered (in their CCC). We (at the time) supposed to take a vow of celibacy.

So, not only do we commit murder when we marry our spouse, we are also disordered to where the catholic feels we can't control our actions. We are bound to temptation. It's a very hard teaching in the church. It bothers me more than protestants who yell we will go to hell if we don't repent. The former is treating us as if we have a disease then say we are still a part of the church but denied all sacraments.

Christ saved sinners. I don't see him partaking in sin but you can still save someone without committing the sin yourself. Hence why sacrifice is important.

But yeah.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I THINK she was trying to emphasize how seriously she took it, not literally comparing taking a life to getting married, but I could be wrong.

Yes. Bad choice of words for a friend.

You don't share my beliefs, and my standards/beliefs regarding what marriage is doesn't apply to you. I don't see why my beliefs SHOULD apply to you. True, *I* don't think you are getting married in the eyes of God, but you don't believe as I do about that, so what I think doesn't matter. Go. enjoy. I think I know where to get a really cute cake topper.

That's better than how I hear other people disagree with it. But I'm used to it. The only view that bothers me is the catholic one. They feel we are disordered and have programs to cure us. It doesn't attack our actions. Anyone can have same sex sex. It focuses on our identity. But not many christians understand that difference.

NOBODY IS ENTITLED to force someone else to support religious beliefs they do not share.

Period.

Problem is both sides feel that way. At least the activist both christian and LGBTQ. Laymen don't always feel that way. Least I don't. But people are killed because of christians forcing their beliefs on us. All LGBTQ do is put up signs and ask for human Rights. Christians indoctrinate, try to cure and change people, insult them, and in history kill people. I can't imagine being in that type of religion.

But I haven't experienced christian issues and wasn't physically harmed for being LGBTQ. I'm grateful. But many people believe as you do. All I can do is sigh and breathe and get something to eat.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Hmm. I did one time talk about other religions since I'm not biased. She said not to talk about them because it will shake her faith. You got a point. It's probably too much for her.

One could at least say that she "was your friend" and probably ate with you but for her it may be beyond her level of faith to be at your wedding and cause her to stumble in her faith.

Yeah. She only hung out with me if we went to church. I didn't know she has trust issues until later when she couldnt visit my home as I do hers without someone there. I got issues but friends work through and accept our differences.

 

[dianaiad]

If those bakers and photographers all have screening processes to eliminate from their clientele divorcees, people who had sex before wedlock and people who are on their second marriage then I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Some do. I know one Catholic caterer who will not 'do' a wedding if one of the parties is divorced. Seems to be the same thing to me.

I also know a kosher caterer who will only do Kosher Jewish weddings.

Seems the same thing to me, and I don't see a problem there.

I mean if sin is sin, we can't just deny gay marriages such services. All sin should be treated equally, is that not what is constantly argued?

Depends on who is defining 'sin.'

After all, the gay couple getting married doesn't think they are sinning.

It's not about what THEY think. It's about what the caterer and photographer think. The Kosher caterer has no problem doing a wedding if one of the parties is divorced. The Catholic caterer wouldn't have a problem doing a wedding (at least, the one I know about ) for a couple that has been 'living in sin' for awhile. Indeed, he loves those....he thinks he's helping a couple get OUT of sin.

If however those same bakers and photographers do not take action to avoid providing services to those sinners and only avoid serving gay couples, then they are nothing but hypocrites hiding behind their religion. Hypocrisy in the name of Jesus is still hypocrisy. And if memory serves He spoke against such a thing.

Since when do you get to define what someone else has to think of as 'sin?'

It's not about what YOU think is sinful. It's about what the caterer/photographer/whatever thinks is.

It's called 'freedom of religion.'

You know...that really odd bit in the first amendment, where government is forbidden to pass a law abridging our ability to exercise our religion?

Doesn't matter whether my exercising my religion annoys you. It's my religion. It's my right.

..................I can't make you do things my way (in the case of gay weddings, not get married). What makes you think you have the right to make me do things your way (approve of and participate in the wedding?)

Give it a rest. You all know by now that I would go to the wedding. I would bake the cake. I would photograph it. I would help celebrate it; I have no problems with it.

But I DO have a problem with being made to do so at the point of a lawsuit.

 

[dianaiad]

...... But people are killed because of christians forcing their beliefs on us.

I'm a Mormon. (OK, LDS)

You don't need to tell me that Christianity has a history of getting mean to those they don't agree with.

All LGBTQ do is put up signs and ask for human Rights.

Uh.....not quite. Lawsuits. Ruining businesses. Forcing people to participate in events that violate their religions at the point of a legal 'gun.'

That is considerably more than 'putting up signs.'

Christians indoctrinate, try to cure and change people, insult them, and in history kill people. I can't imagine being in that type of religion.

I don't see that the LBGTQ people are any different. Or rather, the only difference is that you think your view is 'right,' and therefore whatever you do to achieve your ends are good. Same/same.

But I haven't experienced christian issues and wasn't physically harmed for being LGBTQ. I'm grateful. But many people believe as you do. All I can do is sigh and breathe and get something to eat.

Is that a good thing or a bad one? Are you telling me that I am wrong in my beliefs regarding this issue, and have no right to think as I do about it? That I should embrace gay marriage as just dandy?

I can't do that. You need to understand that in my own belief system, marriage is, or can be, eternal. As in, forever, and between male and female. There is NO way one can be LDS and accept gay marriage as of God....within the LDS mindset.

Every other Christian belief system CAN accept gay marriage...after all, they figure that marriage ends at death and nobody is married AFTER death. Who cares if marriage is between man/woman, male/female, female/female, male/male? After you die it really doesn't matter. Many Christian belief systems have figured that out, and many Christian groups accept gay marriage.

I simply can't. It just doesn't work in my belief system, and it never will. Marriage is too fundamental to us.

On the other hand, if one is NOT Mormon (LDS) then what we think marriage is doesn't apply, does it? We can't decide that YOU have to abide by OUR beliefs regarding this issue, any more than I can insist that you refrain from drinking coffee because I have promised not to drink it.

Your beliefs, your right, it's legal ....go for it. You only have problems if you want to convert. ....and yeah, you'd have some problems then.

But you don't have the right to tell me that I'm some sort of horrible person because my beliefs don't march with yours in this area, or tell me that I MUST (at risk of being sued, anyway) accept and support your choice.

I mean, I do accept and support your choice, for you. I'll bake your cake, take your pictures, be happy for you, tailor your tux...whatever you need. Just don't tell me that you can MAKE me.

Because then we'll have problems.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Uh. If I insulted you I didn't mean to. I'm just expressing my opinion and what I know. I try not to sugarcoat.

I'm a Mormon. (OK, LDS)

You don't need to tell me that Christianity has a history of getting mean to those they don't agree with.

What do you mean by you are a Mormon? Are you christian? I assume so....

My point is many people share your sentiments. However you take it is how you feel. I share sentiments with people accused of being disordered based on who we are attracted to as if gentiles have special powers to pull only gay people. My view.

Uh.....not quite. Lawsuits. Ruining businesses. Forcing people to participate in events that violate their relig

This is a totally different discussion. My friend is in her right to believe whatever. My OP asked about murder vs sex. She was just an example.

That is considerably more than 'putting up signs.'

Depends on how you take it. I just got off work, about to eat, and get ready to sleep. If that's the gay agenda so be. Not all gay people are activist. Unless you are on t.v. with activist I don't know how their views influence yours.

Do you want everyone to be Christian and those who fight for their rights to be victims unless they follow christian beliefs?

I'm not following how you are influenced by other people's behaviors.

I don't see that the LBGTQ people are any different. Or rather, the only difference is that you think your view is 'right,' and therefore whatever you do to achieve your ends are good. Same/same.

Contradiction. Gay people are different because of who we have sex with. Therefore, we sin. So that puts us in a special category of sinners not many people like me understand. Hence why I ask the difference between murder and sex.

You can support or be nice to gay people but it goes beyond that. You would need to be grown up as a gay person or be in that environment to understand beyond attraction and actions.

This isn't attacking you. Based in your posts, this is how I interpret your defense.

Is that a good thing or a bad one? Are you telling me that I am wrong in my beliefs regarding this issue, and have no right to think as I do about it? That I should embrace gay marriage as just dandy?

Ha. On my gosh!!! No. Please read my posts.

1. I said I do not care what my friend believes about marriage.

2. I said it was an insult to compare my marriage to murder

3. My OP asks how marriage and murder relate.

It has nothing to do with you. I can care less about christianity. That isn't my OP.

4. I never had bad experiences as a former christian. I'm grateful because RF doesn't give good impression on christian love as I receive in person.

I can't do that. You need to understand that in my own belief system, marriage is, or can be, eternal. As in, forever, and between male and female. There is NO way one can be LDS and accept gay marriage as of God....within the LDS mindset.

Um. Who is asking you???

I'm confused. How are you being forced to accept a belief that you don't share??

Are they doing this to you in person?

We can control how we respond to other peoples behaviors and speech we disagree with. Christ didnt get offended over sinners. what's wrong?

Every other Christian belief system CAN accept gay marriage...after all, they figure that marriage ends at death and nobody is married AFTER death. Who cares if marriage is between man/woman, male/female, female/female, male/male? After you die it really doesn't matter. Many Christian belief systems have figured that out, and many Christian groups accept gay marriage.

Doesn't matter if they accept. I went to PRIDE festival and saw LDS handing pamphlets to invite people to their Church. They were sharing their faith while not agreeing with the people they felt they wanted them to know god.

I almost cried.

I simply can't. It just doesn't work in my belief system, and it never will. Marriage is too fundamental to us.

Whose asking you???

You don't need to accept marriage all because other humans want to be married. That's your faith. What's wrong?

On the other hand, if one is NOT Mormon (LDS) then what we think marriage is doesn't apply, does it? We can't decide that YOU have to abide by OUR beliefs regarding this issue, any more than I can insist that you refrain from drinking coffee because I have promised not to drink it.

Um. You lost me. The OP isn't a debate.

Your beliefs, your right, it's legal ....go for it. You only have problems if you want to convert. ....and yeah, you'd have some problems then.

We believe our marriage is not determined by gentiles. Others disagree. That's fine.

But you don't have the right to tell me that I'm some sort of horrible person because my beliefs don't march with yours in this area, or tell me that I MUST (at risk of being sued, anyway) accept and support your choice.

Huh??? I asked in my OP how murder is akin to sex.

Huh?

I mean, I do accept and support your choice, for you. I'll bake your cake, take your pictures, be happy for you, tailor your tux...whatever you need. Just don't tell me that you can MAKE me.

Because then we'll have problems.

It is not a choice. You can sleep with someone of your own sex. That doesn't make you gay. Promisquity maybe (what's in the bible) but definitely not gay.

Your whole post is like gay people are attacking you. I mean, I dispise the Holocaust but no one I know nor I experienced it. I'm very empathic. But I know that the influence is not the same as actual experience.

Take a breather

 

[Glaurung]

yet she worships a guy who reqularly ate with thieves and whores.....go figure.

You're conveniently leaving out the other half the story. Jesus' repeated calls to repentance.

Go and sin no more....

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?

While equivocating gay marriage with acts of murder is bizarre, the answer to this question is an easy no. Reaching out to criminals in prison is not an affirmation of criminality as a legitimate lifestyle choice. Attendance at a gay wedding by contrast is an ipso facto affirmation of acts which are intrinsically sinful. Affirmation of sin is itself a sin.

A Catholic who attends any such ceremony almost certainly incurs mortal sin.

 

[Kenny]

Yeah. She only hung out with me if we went to church. I didn't know she has trust issues until later when she couldnt visit my home as I do hers without someone there. I got issues but friends work through and accept our differences.

Sorry to hear that. I ask forgiveness on behalf of Christians.

Maybe she is still at the baby stage:

Hebrews 5:13 For someone who lives on milk is still an infant and doesn’t know how to do what is right.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

You're conveniently leaving out the other half the story. Jesus' repeated calls to repentance.

Go and sin no more....


While equivocating gay marriage with acts of murder is bizarre, the answer to this question is an easy no. Reaching out to criminals in prison is not an affirmation of criminality as a legitimate lifestyle choice. Attendance at a gay wedding by contrast is an ipso facto affirmation of acts which are intrinsically sinful. Affirmation of sin is itself a sin.

A Catholic who attends any such ceremony almost certainly incurs mortal sin.

How do you support someone's wedding by going to it? I


If someone had a job promotion party and I disagrees with the company they work for both morally and personally, that has nothing to do with supporting my friend. Unless I can't keep a barrier on who I support just by my presence, I can tell my friend...hey, I will be uncomfortable with X but I will still support you, as a person.

The only way I can my friend not doing this is she would have to compare my marriage (gay is Not a lifestyle. Marriage is) to murder. I wouldn't want to attend an event of someone elses murder.

My question is, I don't understand how the two actions corelate. Sex vs murder. They are both sins but beyond that, I don't know.

My friend was an example but wasn't my point. What she did insulted me and there are better ways to disagree with attending something she feels is wrong without comparing it to something like murder. I'd never follow a faith that makes people think like that. But that's me.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Sorry to hear that. I ask forgiveness on behalf of Christians.

Maybe she is still at the baby stage:

Hebrews 5:13 For someone who lives on milk is still an infant and doesn’t know how to do what is right.

Hmm. Thank you for that perspective. As long as I've known her I can see that. What would you do if you said the same as she without intent to hurt me?