If an Athiest was forced to choose a religion, What would it be?

[fantome profane]

I'll have to say..
His premise "freedom from religion" is somewhat a strong belief that he holds in which death is a choice he will make instead of choosing another way of life. Can his "freedom from religion" be a religion itself?

I will confess to a certain "religious zeal" in the defense of individual freedom. But when I defend the concept of freedom of (or from) religious oppression I am defending y0ur freedom as well as my own. I don't even find my position that extreme. Many people are willing to died for he cause of freedom.

 

[Willamena]

Can you extend your answer into a clarification.

It's doubtful.

 

[pro4life]

Then I studied Judaism awhile, strongly considered conversion to Reform Judaism (they usually require conversion if you've been raised secular or other), then decided to call myself Gnostic as a way of stating I believed in God like a force within people without limiting myself to any single religion. Of course I still backed up much of my position with the Gnostic texts.

Which parts of the Gnostic texts that made you satisfied.

 

[Desert Snake]

Those are unrelated matters. Agnosticism is, in essence, doubt. Doubt about the possibility of knowing whether there is a god, which is far more timid than doubt about the existence of god itself.

Agnosticism isn't really 'doubt', it's the 'inherent belief' or whatever not being there. There isn't a belief to 'doubt' in the first place. This doesn't prevent theism, and if someone says 'doubt', that means they had some actual belief in the first place, hence not atheism. If they say, 'my doubt led to atheism', that makes more sense.

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

Which partso the Gnostic texts that made you satisfied.

I liked the Gospel of Thomas best, but the Gospel of Truth was also insightful, which is Valentinian.

 

[pro4life]

I will confess to a certain "religious zeal" in the defense of individual freedom. But when I defend the concept of freedom of (or from) religious oppression I am defending y0ur freedom as well as my own. I don't even find my position that extreme. Many people are willing to died for he cause of freedom.

So am going to ask you again. Will you die instead of embracing a religion if you were forced to?

 

[LuisDantas]

Agnosticism isn't really 'doubt', it's the 'inherent belief' or whatever not being there. There isn't a belief to 'doubt' in the first place. This doesn't prevent theism, and if someone says 'doubt', that means they had some actual belief in the first place, hence not atheism. If they say, 'my doubt led to atheism', that makes more sense.

I will come back to you once I manage to parse that. It may take a while...

 

[LuisDantas]

So am going to ask you again. Will you die instead of embracing a religion if you were forced to?

Gosh. Do you hate the Abrahamic faiths so much that you call such an abomination "embracing" them?

 

[Desert Snake]

It is doubt to the degree I don't currently believe in a god.

That's what I figured you meant.

 

[pro4life]

I liked the Gospel of Thomas best, but the Gospel of Truth was also insightful, which is Valentinian.

So can you call yourself a religious Gnostic?

 

[fantome profane]

So am going to ask you again. Will you die instead of embracing a religion if you were forced to?

I will answer again. Yes, I would die instead embracing a religion if I were forced to. Have I been in anyway unclear on that point?

 

[pro4life]

Gosh. Do you hate the Abrahamic faiths so much that you call such an abomination "embracing" them?

He has this level of zeal that will protect his set of belief to the point he will choose death. If you ask any laymen they will tell you he's a religious fanatic.

 

[pro4life]

I will answer again. Yes, I would die instead embracing a religion if I were forced to. Have I been in anyway unclear on that point?

People will classify you as a religious fanatic with religious zeal. Are you religious?

 

[LuisDantas]

He has this level of zeal that will protect his set of belief to the point he will choose death. If you ask any laymen they will tell you he's a religious fanatic.

You realize you have failed to answer my question?

 

[LuisDantas]

People will classify you as a religious fanatic with religious zeal. Are you religious?

Do you define a religion by the determination to commit destructive foolish actions, then?

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

So can you call yourself a religious Gnostic?

Nope. I no longer believe in a god. I see no reason to in light of what modern man has learned, and also the way the world is.

 

[fantome profane]

People will classify you as a religious fanatic with religious zeal. Are you religious?

I do not consider myself religious.

But I do have strongly held beliefs.

 

[Desert Snake]

Nope. I no longer believe in a god. I see no reason to in light of what modern man has learned, and also the way the world is.

Many religious people aren't theistic, and vice-versa. I'm theistic but I've never been a 'standard' Xian, or practiced standard Judaism etc. They truly are unrelated terms outside of context.

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

Many religious people aren't theistic, and vice-versa. I'm theistic but I've never been a 'standard' Xian, or practiced standard Judaism etc. They truly are unrelated terms outside of context.

If I were to embrace a religion at this point I could most truthfully call myself Buddhist, but I find some of its tenants questionable.

 

[LuisDantas]

You should consider Taoism then. But please don't tell me that it is because Buddhism believes in reincarnation...