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You post was about Trump. Do you not understand that there is endless evidence him? That he is not a decent human being?What am I wrong about? I said "regardless of who was the originator".
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You post was about Trump. Do you not understand that there is endless evidence him? That he is not a decent human being?What am I wrong about? I said "regardless of who was the originator".
Your post #612 was not about Trump, it was about this.You post was about Trump. Do you not understand that there is endless evidence him? That he is not a decent human being?
These are the rules of most societies. They have nothing to do with Gods or messengers. In Hinduism, even the Gods follow 'dharma'. 'Dharma' is eternal (Sanatan).But I said "regardless of who was the originator".
Who are you to say that the spirit of the quote "treating others as you want to be treated, forgiving others for treating you badly as you yourself would like to be forgiven for treating others badly" was not from a verbal tradition of some earlier avatar of God? This has nothing to do with the rules of societies.These are the rules of most societies. They have nothing to do with Gods or messengers. In Hinduism, even the Gods follow 'dharma'. 'Dharma' is eternal (Sanatan).
It is the rule of societies. Those who transgress it always end up poorly.This has nothing to do with the rules of societies.
I understand that national laws are the rules of society, but you've lost me when you say that religious teachings such as 'love your neighbor as yourself' are the rules of society?It is the rule of societies. Those who transgress it always end up poorly.
I think I get it. Although many, including myself, see this as a rule, or law, from God, the evidence of its effectiveness is in the results of societal use. Through society's success and failure we see what is good, and for believers, God is good, so His laws come to us as proven good by society.I understand that national laws are the rules of society, but you've lost me when you say that religious teachings such as 'love your neighbor as yourself' are the rules of society?
Yes, I am aware of God's laws of karma, cause and effect, what one sows, so do they reap, and therefore what happens in society life is God's laws in action, if that is what he meant?I think I get it. Although many, including myself, see this as a rule, or law, from God, the evidence of its effectiveness is in the results of societal use. Through society's success and failure we see what is good, and for believers, God is good, so His laws come to us as proven good by society.
From a completely naturalistic point of view, IF he was not the messiah, he was a rebel leader according to some scholars who take that approach. he was a rebel, he had a movement against Rome, they caught him and killed him as they did with many other rebel leaders.Hi everyone, I'm Jewish, and I'm here to engage in a respectful and open discussion about the role of Jesus Christ. As someone who doesn't believe in Christ, I hold the perspective that both Christianity and Islam have been orchestrated by God to spread monotheism.
Recently, I had a thought-provoking discussion with a spokesman from a Christian institute on youtube, and it led me to ponder how difficult to discern Christ's true nature without understanding Hebrew.
Just for the sake of discussion, if Christ wasn't the Messiah, what was he?
I do apologize if anyone is offended, but I think we should have an open, respectful, and tolerant discussion about anything.
I look forward to hearing different perspectives and engaging in a thoughtful exchange of ideas.
National laws may be different from social laws, particularly in countries which have many religious and ethnic societies. For example, India.I understand that national laws are the rules of society, ..
Not just against Rome, against the authorities in Judaism too, like 'Bring down everything, social., political, and accept my sovereignty'.From a completely naturalistic point of view, IF he was not the messiah, he was a rebel leader according to some scholars who take that approach. he was a rebel, he had a movement against Rome, they caught him and killed him as they did with many other rebel leaders.
Forgive him Lord, for he know not what he saith.Not just against Rome, against the authorities in Judaism too, like 'Bring down everything, social., political, and accept my sovereignty'.
Ok, but karma is always at work, sometimes in sync with the national laws, and with the social, sometimes one or the other or both or neither. At the end of the day, karma's workings are immutable and just.National laws may be different from social laws, particularly in countries which have many religious and ethnic societies. For example, India.
Ok, but karma is always at work, sometimes in sync with the national laws, and with the social, sometimes one or the other or both or neither. At the end of the day, karma's workings are immutable and just.
Existence as a whole is continuous, referring to your belief that something, eg., a human life, with all its present and continuing karmic existing energies can suddenly cease and disappear from existence completely without any further appearance or consequence, this is not sound reasoning imho.That is the theist view. My view is that there is not transfer of karma to a reincarnation, because I do not believe in soul or reincarnation. Karma can have affects in this life, but not necessarily. Sometimes murderers escape punishment.
Find it hard to accept? It bombs your ego? I understand.Existence as a whole is continuous, referring to your belief that something, eg., a human life, with all its present and continuing karmic existing energies can suddenly cease and disappear from existence completely without any further appearance or consequence, this is not sound reasoning imho.
So now you seem to be implying that life on this planet, in this star system, in this universe, at this time, is all there ever in time and space?Find it hard to accept? It bombs your ego? I understand.
Species Homo sapiens is just about 300,000 years old out of the 13.8 billion years after 'Big Bang/inflation', i.e., 0.002174% of the time.
Nature did perfectly well without us for all that time. We were not created on the sixth day after creation by any God.
So are you aware if these other planets, star systems and galaxies share any underlying common energy field, and if so, what is its nature?Who said that? There may be life in many other planets of other systems in the 80 billion galaxies that are supposed to exist. But we cannot reach them even by signals, what to talk of a face to face meeting. Nothing else has ever been evidenced.
1. Read Brahma Sutras: https://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bs_0/Brahma_Sutra.pdfSo are you aware if these other planets, star systems and galaxies share any underlying common energy field, and if so, what is its nature?
Hint, long before modern science, ancient peoples knew there was an underlying omnipresent spiritual energy/atma.