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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?

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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Yes, it will never ever fear hell until it finally tells. How the Tell-the-Tale-of-the-King-of-hearts-tells that for breakfast he will get to eat just batches of waffles.

Waffles with black cherries and ice-cream is very tasty. I thank the new-age god "The Absolute" for such bounties! Piffle be upon him! Piffle be upon his emissaries, the tiny ducks of Quantum Foam!
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
Some people simply cannot cope with uncertainty and clutch at metaphysical straws and woo. Some even become fundamentalists, preaching DIY religions and making up new gods like "Absolute".

Do you think we will ever get back to the actual topic of the thread? ;)

You're driving us away from it with your repetitive crap! You give new meaning to the phrase 'self-starter'
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
It's not helpful looking at this world as an illusion.
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If you don't recognize it's illusory qualities, you will be carried along in your delusion, thinking it to be real. For such a person, the 3rd Level of Consciousness is real, verified via his perception, such as when he drops a brick on his foot which only confirms its reality. Once a certain amount of awakening occurs, however, it's illusory quality is unmistakable, something now confirmed by Quantum Physics, in its determination that all of the mass of the atom is virtual in nature. Awakening allows you to see it for what it actually is: illusory, because from the POV of the awakened mind, it is the awakened state that is the true Reality, and not that of perception on the level just below. So recognizing the illusion as illusion is very helpful indeed in staying rooted in Reality.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
We've heard this crap a million times before and it's STILL BS.

Stop preaching your delusional DIY religion, it's driving everyone mad.

We don't need no steenkin new-age god "The Absolute"!
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
The trick to remember, to never forget, is that no matter where you sit, you are always like a child, eager to learn more...

Then, when you've filled yourself up to the hilt with learning, you realize you know less than when you started out, and so begin the long journey of dropping knowledge, day by day, until you are completely empty. It is this emptiness that allows for real 'learning' to rush in, the 'learning' of The Universe itself, which, if you think about it, is the Source for the learning you are talking about. In fact, it's where you emerged out of and in to, and which sustains you both inside and out 100%, moment to moment. It's just that getting it directly from the horse's mouth is more pure than going round about via the conceptual mind. Maybe that's why the Hindus told us this world is illusory over some 4000 years ago, an idea modern Western science is just scratching the surface with
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
We've heard this crap a million times before and it's STILL BS.

Stop preaching your delusional DIY religion, it's driving everyone mad.

We don't need no steenkin new-age god "The Absolute"!

You may have heard something, but you don't know how to listen.

You did not answer my question: is there a relative 'other' to The Universe?
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
We don't need no ... "The Absolute"!

You were born into it, and will die in it, which is why you fail to recognize it, your attention being captivated by the movement in the foreground of life. In all of your 35 years of meditation, you still have not found it, even though it is as intimate as your very next breath.

(Spiney, sticking his head out, frantically looking all around)

"Where? Where? I don't see any 'Absolute'. Must be just so much BS!

And that is what the baby fish said to momma fish when told that the sea was all around and inside of him.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Oh, "The Absolute", why have you not heeded my prayer? Please let the earth open and swallow this pretentious patronising prophet and all his obnoxious cliches!

Please send him to the Quantum Foam, let him annoy the tiny ducks instead! Please, Great Absoluty Thingy, answer my prayer! If you do I shall absolutely sacrifice a portion of precious fish-and-chips to your Absolute Absoluteness!
 

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
Then, when you've filled yourself up to the hilt with learning, you realize you know less than when you started out, and so begin the long journey of dropping knowledge, day by day, until you are completely empty. It is this emptiness that allows for real 'learning' to rush in, the 'learning' of The Universe itself, which, if you think about it, is the Source for the learning you are talking about. In fact, it's where you emerged out of and in to, and which sustains you both inside and out 100%, moment to moment. It's just that getting it directly from the horse's mouth is more pure than going round about via the conceptual mind. Maybe that's why the Hindus told us this world is illusory over some 4000 years ago, an idea modern Western science is just scratching the surface with

I like what you say here.
 

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
I understand Absolute as just another word for the Universe, so I don't find it quite so offensive. It's a label...meh.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
The universe is all there is, so no 'other'.

OK. So if there is no 'other' that it can be compared to, it cannot be relative. Not being relative, it can, by default, only be The Absolute. Is this logic bullet-proof, or not? If not, demonstrate that, via logic.

Thanks
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
Oh, "The Absolute", why have you not heeded my prayer? Please let the earth open and swallow this pretentious patronising prophet and all his obnoxious cliches!

Please send him to the Quantum Foam, let him annoy the tiny ducks instead! Please, Great Absoluty Thingy, answer my prayer! If you do I shall absolutely sacrifice a portion of precious fish-and-chips to your Absolute Absoluteness!

I am The Lord Thy God AKA 'The Absolute'. Thou shalt have no other Absolutes before Me! I have sent my only downtrodden Son, GNG, to your forums with my message. Have you been listening, or just throwing tantrums every time he speaks?
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I understand Absolute as just another word for the Universe, so I don't find it quite so offensive. It's a label...meh.

Pointless tautology and word games, smoke and mirrors employed by snake-oil sellers and Chopra clones.

As was said by the great Irish swami, Seamus K. Nandy, "The universe is just the universe, seen through the glass of Guinness."
 
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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
"Where is my Precious, The Absolute? Have you seen my Precious?"

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