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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?

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Runewolf1973

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
Aupmanyav said:
What you say that too is speculation. :)
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I guess it might depend on a person's religious or mystic views, but according to science everything known to exist is fluctuating, changing and interacting. Is there anything you can think of in the entire universe that is not interacting in some way?
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I do not deny interaction, but is it always like that? Or does it ever fold back? 'Pralaya'/'Mahapralaya', re-absorption, as in Hindu belief into Deity/Brhman/'Absolute Nothing'? :)
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Runewolf1973 said:
I guess it might depend on a person's religious or mystic views, but according to science everything known to exist is fluctuating, changing and interacting. Is there anything you can think of in the entire universe that is not interacting in some way?
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Yes. the Universe itself, as it is Everything, and cannot 'interact' with any relative other, as there is none.

And, oh yes, add the 'snake' you think you see, which is in reality a rope, and only SEEMS to be fluctuating.
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Runewolf1973 said:
That is the only part I speculate about.
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I do not speculate about it. The relevant information is not available at present. Our future generations will know, so I leave it to them. :)

Sorry, can't enjoy the video because of my hearing problem. Tell me what does he say? Putting aside the speculating, analytical, discursive, logical, rational mind - no, never. :)
 
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godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Aupmanyav said:
I do not speculate about it. The relevant information is not available at present. Our future generations will know, so I leave it to them. :)

Sorry, can't enjoy the video because of my hearing problem. Tell me what does he say? Putting aside the speculating, analytical, discursive, logical, rational mind - no, never. :)
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Are you afraid of what you might see without them?
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Not afraid of anything (whatsoever). Putting aside speculating, analytical, discursive, logical, rational mind, I will arrive at la-la-land, that is what I do not like. Saw the video but could not hear the narration. :(
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Aupmanyav said:
Not afraid of anything (whatsoever). Putting aside speculating, analytical, discursive, logical, rational mind, I will arrive at la-la-land, that is what I do not like. Saw the video but could not hear the narration. :(
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Sorry, there is no closed captioning available for it either.

La la land is still a form of speculation. Go beyond la la land. Hold the mind still so you can be in a state of clarity.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Aupmanyav said:
I do not speculate about it. The relevant information is not available at present. Our future generations will know, so I leave it to them. :)
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The Universe is complete just as it is. Factual knowledge about it is never complete, but seeing what it is about is complete, and is available to you right now, as it has always been available to everyone down through the ages, always in the present moment. Brahman does not change; it is a complete and robust presence.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Aupmanyav said:
Done that. Mysticism does not interest me.
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There is mysticism and there is orthodoxy. Is Advaita an orthodox belief system that you try to marry to science?

Zen people call the discursive, analytical, logical, rational, thinking mind monkey mind, because it is always jumping about like a monkey. Meditation is a means of quieting this monkey mind so that Big Mind can then come into play. Big Mind is the mind of the Universe. Monkey mind is the mind of the limited self; it is the mind which is forever attempting to encapsulate and conceptualize Reality in order to 'make sense' out of it, but instead always ends in paradox. Why? Because nature is not based upon Logic, Reason, and Analysis. It is based upon itself, just like Brahman. You should know that from your studies in Advaita.
 
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Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

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Well, Godnotgod, I have my views and you have yours. My Brahman does not stop from changing even for a moment. I am no follower of Zen and do not believe in Big Mind. Nature is perfectly amenable to logic, reason and analysis. I do not think any one of us is going to change our way of thinking. It was a nice exchange of views.
 
Runewolf1973

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
Aupmanyav said:
Well, Godnotgod, I have my views and you have yours. My Brahman does not stop from changing even for a moment. I am no follower of Zen and do not believe in Big Mind. Nature is perfectly amenable to logic, reason and analysis. I do not think any one of us is going to change our way of thinking. It was a nice exchange of views.
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A pleasure to discuss with you. I like your views. :)
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Aupmanyav said:
Nature is perfectly amenable to logic, reason and analysis.
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Yes and no. Only her outward characteristics and behavior are. Color of hair, height, weight, and patterns of activities. Modus operandi. Just the facts, ma'am. If you really want to get in touch with the true nature of Reality, though, you will need to set those tools aside, and go in a little deeper. Sorry, that's just the way it is.

Logic, Reason, and Analysis are the methods of dissection. Very clinical. I can almost smell the alcohol. Dissection yields a DEAD Universe. Put the pieces in a jar of formaldehyde, label, and place on lab shelf for future reference or until the current paradigm is debunked and the next one becomes popular.

Next!
 
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godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Aupmanyav said:
My Brahman does not stop from changing even for a moment.
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heh...heh....the image of an eternally changing Brahman makes me laugh, in light of the fact that, everywhere we look, the Universe shows itself in cycles of on/off. From the POV of science, I think the idea is that the Universe runs itself out into entropy, correct? And at the beginning point of The Universe, we have the Big Bang, indicating a starting point after perhaps a period of non-activity. Just sayin'...
 
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