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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?

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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Agreed, but that also depends on how you percieve the universe. To me "universe" means the totality of everything that exists including all other possibly existing universes. So depending on how one percieves it, the universe can be seen as a sort of absolute because there is no other, but that doesn't mean it is not interactive or interconnected.

I think the important thing is what we can actually observe, which is perpetual change and interaction at all scales.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
The Buddha...said, "Since there is no absolute self-nature thus every existence exhibits void-nature. Because it is void, there is no rising nor falling. Since there is no rising nor falling, thus everything was originally in complete calmness. Its self-nature is nirvana."

'no absolute' refers to no absolute self nature, and since there is no rising or falling, there is no interaction
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
Whatever. I am waiting for you to explain clearly how that Zen poem is relevant to our current discussion. Or did you just post it to look cool?

you always do this because you have little intuitive understanding. I am not going to do your thinking for you. read it and try.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
you always do this because you have little intuitive understanding. I am not going to do your thinking for you. read it and try.

No, you posted it, you need to explain why you posted it and how it is relevant to the current discussion. You have this habit of dumping stuff into discussions at random, it's not helpful. Personally I think you were just trying to look cool, but perhaps you will pleasantly surprise me and explain yourself properly for once.
 
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Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
So is our universe infinite and unbounded? No idea. Does it even matter in terms of the current discussion?

It seems to be unlimited, but who really knows for sure? For it to be only "pure nothingness" however seems quite the limitation. I believe it to be interactive and therein resides the potential for it to be anything and everything since it can change into whatever it wants.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
It seems to be unlimited, but who really knows for sure? For it to be only "pure nothingness" however seems quite the limitation. I believe it to be interactive and therein resides the potential for it to be anything and everything since it can change into whatever it wants.

"Pure nothingness" is just more meaningless nonsense in my view. Infinite potential sounds more promising.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
The Buddha...said, "Since there is no absolute self-nature thus every existence exhibits void-nature. Because it is void, there is no rising nor falling. Since there is no rising nor falling, thus everything was originally in complete calmness. Its self-nature is nirvana."
'no absolute' refers to no absolute self nature, and since there is no rising or falling, there is no interaction

You are becoming unintelligible.
 

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
The Buddha...said, "Since there is no absolute self-nature thus every existence exhibits void-nature. Because it is void, there is no rising nor falling. Since there is no rising nor falling, thus everything was originally in complete calmness. Its self-nature is nirvana."

'no absolute' refers to no absolute self nature, and since there is no rising or falling, there is no interaction


I don't see The Buddha as being the absolute authority on the universe either, so instead I must become my own "buddha".
 
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