If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?

[godnotgod]

Your views are certainly illogical which is why I choose to dismiss them.

Fine with me.

But so far, logic reason and analysis fail to 'explain' reality. all I am saying is that there is another pathway to knowledge that neither dissects nor is reductionist. nature remains a paradox to science simply because it is not based on reason.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Brahman and Sunyata: totally compatible
Buddha realized cosmic/universal consciousness: that is why he is a buddha and you are not.
pointing to the moon is my Zen approach
Chopra reflects Buddhist teachings
sunyata: everything is interconnected as one so there are no 'things', everything is the absolute.

You say "interconnected" which indicates many things which are connected as one. Interconnectivity is a form of interaction.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Brahman and Sunyata: totally compatible except in the muddled mind
Buddha realized cosmic/universal consciousness: that is why he is a buddha and you are not.
pointing to the moon is my Zen approach
Chopra reflects Buddhist teaching; you reflect ignorance of Buddhist teachings.
sunyata: everything is interconnected as one so there are no 'things', everything is the absolute.

Sheer nonsense. No wonder you are confused. Don't take my word for it, post that drivel on some Buddhist forums and see what response you get.

 

[godnotgod]

You say "interconnected" which indicates many things which are connected as one. Interconnectivity is a form of interaction.

the buddha's law of dependent origination says that what we call 'things' arise interdependently, meaning there are no such 'things' as such, as 'things' have no self-nature. a rock has no rock nature. all things comprise Everything, which is The Universe, which is The Absolute.

 

[godnotgod]

Sheer nonsense. No wonder you are confused. Don't take my word for it, post that drivel on some Buddhist forums and see what response you get.

I see all of it clearly; you are the one who's brain is in a puddled muddle because you are still in the realm of discriminating mind.

LOOK! The Moon!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

You say "interconnected" which indicates many things which are connected as one. Interconnectivity is a form of interaction.

Sunyata means that there are no things, only processes.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Fine with me.

But so far, logic reason and analysis fail to 'explain' reality. all I am saying is that there is another pathway to knowledge that neither dissects nor is reductionist. nature remains a paradox to science simply because it is not based on reason.

That's fine with me as well. The universe has the final say anyways, not you, not me, not even science.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I see all of it clearly; you are the one who's brain is in a puddled muddle because you are still in the realm of discriminating mind.

Arrogant nonsense. You are just making stuff up in a vain attempt to sound cool.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

the buddha's law of dependent origination says that what we call 'things' arise interdependently, meaning there are no such 'things' as such, as 'things' have no self-nature. a rock has no rock nature. all things comprise Everything, which is The Universe, which is The Absolute.

Nonsense. Sunyata means there is NO "absolute", that is the whole point. All is relative and in flux.

 

[godnotgod]

Arrogant nonsense. You are just making stuff up in a vain attempt to sound cool.

So why do you constantly complain of brain muddling?

 

[Runewolf1973]

Sunyata means that there are no things, only processes.

Would you consider processes to be interactive?

 

[godnotgod]

Nonsense. Sunyata means there is NO "absolute", that is the whole point. All is relative and in flux.

no, it means form is emptiness; emptiness is form

the universe is everything; being everything, it has no other to which it can be compared. having no other to which it can be compared means it is the absolute

 

[Rick O'Shez]

So why do you constantly complain of brain muddling?

You are the one with the muddled brain.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

no, it means form is emptiness; emptiness is form

And that means nothing has inherent existence, everything is relative, there are no absolutes. There is no "cosmic consciousness" or "universal consciousness". Like I said sunyata is not compatible with your pseudo-Hindu beliefs.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Would you consider processes to be interactive?

Yes, certainly.

 

[Runewolf1973]

the buddha's law of dependent origination says that what we call 'things' arise interdependently, meaning there are no such 'things' as such, as 'things' have no self-nature. a rock has no rock nature. all things comprise Everything, which is The Universe, which is The Absolute.

Well that is how interaction works as well hence the prefix "inter". Interactive things have no self nature either because everything which interacts is in fact interconnected.

 

[godnotgod]

Well that is how interaction works as well hence the prefix "inter". Interactive things have no self nature either because everything which interacts is in fact interconnected.

if things have no self nature, it means there are no things.

form is emptiness;
emptiness is form

don't confuse form with things

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Well that is how interaction works as well hence the prefix "inter". Interactive things have no self nature either because everything which interacts is in fact interconnected.

Another way of describing this is dependent arising, in other words all phenomena arise in dependence on condition, and cease when those conditions cease. This applies equally to universes, planets, weather, human bodies, thoughts, feelings, whatever you like. This means that all phenomena are relative so there can be no absolutes - no God, no "cosmic consciousness", no "ultimate reality", none of that stuff. There are no essences, and nothing which exists independently.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

if things have no self nature, it means there are no things.
form is emptiness;
emptiness is form
don't confuse form with things

Don't bother, I think Runewolf understands it better than you do.

 

[Runewolf1973]

if things have no self nature, it means there are no things.

form is emptiness;
emptiness is form

Since matter is basically empty anyways, what independent "things" are there? There is only interaction/interconnectivity.