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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?

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godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
YOU are certainly still strongly attached to identification. You reek of ego.
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Oh, really? Am I the one who finds a need to re-invent his Spiney ego as O'Shez? Yawn. Boring.

You now gonna go on 'Ignore', for 'Ignor-ance'. Solly Cholly, but only the best tuna can be Star-Kist tuna.:p:p:p

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Rick O'Shez

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
godnotgod said:
I am a Zennist...
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No, you are not. Real Zennists have a simple here-and-now practice, and would not touch your preachy new-age metaphysical garbage with a barge-pole.

godnotgod said:
Theravadist, as you fail to grasp basic Buddhistic ideas, such as the real meaning of the Heart Sutra, discussed earlier. [/COLOR]
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We clarified before that the Heart Sutra and sunyata completely contradict your pseudo-Hindu notions of "cosmic consciousness". Sunyata ( emptiness ) is diametrically opposed to absolutes like Atman and Brahman, and also to your new-age equivalents like "cosmic consciousness" and "universal consciousness". This is a further demonstration of your dishonest approach, you pretend that Buddhist teachings support your Chopra-inspired nonsense but they really don't.

Zen in particular is diametrically opposed to the approach you take.
 
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Rick O'Shez

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
godnotgod said:
The Quantum level completely comprises the gross level, were Newtonian Physics 'works'. They are two levels of the same Reality, not two separate worlds as you had stated earlier. All atomic mass is created on the Quantum level, and atomic mass is what constitutes the visible world.
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This is a misrepresentation of the point that I and others have made, childish point scoring. The world we EXPERIENCE is that of Newtonian mechanics, we do not experience the quantum world. We cannot see quarks, and apples fall from trees.
 
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godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
This whole thread is "evidence", and all the previous threads you have hi-jacked here to preach your Chopra-inspired new-age nonsense. You are a troll.
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May the other members be my witness, that you continue to seek me out to aggravate the situation, as you have even admitted the degree to which you are bothered by my input. So to the contrary, it is none other than YOU who is doing the hijacking here, as a platform to air your prejudicial and ignorant disdain for Chopra and my respect for him, and all because you have such a shallow understanding of Mr. Chopra's message. There is nothing that you have ever uttered on these forums that can come close to the insight that Mr. Chopra possesses. You claim I have hijacked other threads, but you fail to challenge my posts in any meaningful way. All you have ever done is to accuse without real evidence as evinced by your ignorant statement about Mr. Chopra in this post.

Rick, I honestly am beginning to think you are just plain jealous, and this has resulted in your current relentless pursuit of me. Now you had best cease and desist or this will be reported as stalking.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
This is a misrepresentation of the point that I and others have made, childish point scoring. The world we EXPERIENCE is that of Newtonian mechanics, we do not experience the quantum world. We cannot see quarks, and apples fall from trees.
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There is no Quantum world as opposed to a Newtonian world. There is only ONE WORLD. The gross level cannot exist without the Quantum level. Just because it is not visible to you does not mean you are not experiencing it. Your simplistic 'head in the sand' attitude fails to paint the correct picture of what is really going on.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
We clarified before that the Heart Sutra and sunyata completely contradict your pseudo-Hindu notions of "cosmic consciousness". Sunyata ( emptiness ) is diametrically opposed to absolutes like Atman and Brahman, and also to your new-age equivalents like "cosmic consciousness" and "universal consciousness". This is a further demonstration of your dishonest approach, you pretend that Buddhist teachings support your Chopra-inspired nonsense but they really don't.

Zen in particular is diametrically opposed to the approach you take.
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Who is this 'we'?

You missed the fact that the Buddha was able to ascertain the nature of the five aggregates and emptiness of form with an enlightened consciousness.

I refuse to carry on with someone who can only accuse with labels and no evidence.
There is no basis for a discussion with such an individual.

So goodbye. I am sorry you feel the way you doo about Mr. Chopra. You are very unfair.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
That is just what I was thinking about you. Though of course I am not the one who regularly hijacks threads to preach this nonsense.
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You hijack them because you have not understood, as ben d, myself, and others have pointed out several times in the past. So you return as O'Shez to cause a ruckus. If your intuitive insight is shallow, it is your fault for not working on it. Stop blaming me with your silly accusations and posturing.
 
Rick O'Shez

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
godnotgod said:
You missed the fact that the Buddha was able to ascertain the nature of the five aggregates and emptiness of form with an enlightened consciousness.
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I haven't missed anything. What I said WAS correct and is a clear example of the way you misrepresent things. Sunyata ( emptiness ) DOES completely contradict your pseudo-Hindu notions of "cosmic consciousness". Sunyata ( emptiness ) IS NOT compatible with absolutes like Atman and Brahman, or with new-age equivalents like "cosmic consciousness" and "universal consciousness".
And Zen practice in particular IS diametrically opposed to the approach you take.
Buddhist teachings DO NOT support your Chopra-inspired new-age theories, and authentic Zennies DO NOT indulge in the kind of metaphysical nonsense that you continually preach.
 
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Rick O'Shez

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
godnotgod said:
There is no Quantum world as opposed to a Newtonian world. There is only ONE WORLD. The gross level cannot exist without the Quantum level. Just because it is not visible to you does not mean you are not experiencing it. Your simplistic 'head in the sand' attitude fails to paint the correct picture of what is really going on.
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You are eel-wriggling now. We cannot see atoms and quarks, we cannot fly or move through walls, that's the point at issue here.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
I haven't missed anything. What I said WAS correct and is a clear example of the way you misrepresent things. Sunyata ( emptiness ) DOES completely contradict your pseudo-Hindu notions of "cosmic consciousness". Sunyata ( emptiness ) IS NOT compatible with absolutes like Atman and Brahman, or with new-age equivalents like "cosmic consciousness" and "universal consciousness".
And Zen practice in particular IS diametrically opposed to the approach you take.
Buddhist teachings DO NOT support your Chopra-inspired new-age theories, and authentic Zennies DO NOT indulge in the kind of metaphysical nonsense that you continually preach.
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pure rubbish.

http://www.katinkahesselink.net/tibet/atmsun.htm
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Rick O'Shez said:
I haven't missed anything. What I said WAS correct and is a clear example of the way you misrepresent things. Sunyata ( emptiness ) DOES completely contradict your pseudo-Hindu notions of "cosmic consciousness". Sunyata ( emptiness ) IS NOT compatible with absolutes like Atman and Brahman, or with new-age equivalents like "cosmic consciousness" and "universal consciousness".
And Zen practice in particular IS diametrically opposed to the approach you take.
Buddhist teachings DO NOT support your Chopra-inspired new-age theories, and authentic Zennies DO NOT indulge in the kind of metaphysical nonsense that you continually preach.
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Brahman and Sunyata: totally compatible except in the muddled mind
Buddha realized cosmic/universal consciousness: that is why he is a buddha and you are not.
pointing to the moon is my Zen approach
Chopra reflects Buddhist teaching; you reflect ignorance of Buddhist teachings.
sunyata: everything is interconnected as one so there are no 'things', everything is the absolute.
 
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