ScuzManiac
Active Member
If killing a murderer makes us no worse than they are...
Why not do it?
Sounds a lot better than tax dollars paying to feed and house them.
Some prisoners have it better than civilians.
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If God forgave everyone, there wouldn't be any justice
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If killing a murderer makes us no worse than they are...
Why not do it?
Sounds a lot better than tax dollars paying to feed and house them.
Some prisoners have it better than civilians.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Because doing so devalues human life and objectifies individuals.
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roger1440
I do stuff
Cain will forever be a wanderer, never to find rest.
roger1440
I do stuff
Dearest, do you think that Christ would approve capital punishment?
that's your problem: you tend to separate the public sphere from the private one. You think that God doesn't see you when you desire to execute a human being?
There is already a justice: the justice of the afterlife.
Freewill is sacred. Not even God has the capability to kill a person, because God cannot violate freewill. So we are supposed not to violate freewill either
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
No, I don't think Jesus approves of capital punishment. I'm merely saying that murder is a legal term, and that capital punishment doesn't qualify as murder. If you read back, you'll note that I did say that capital punishment is the taking of human life.
Your problem seems to be two-fold:
1) You don't know what I think
2) You seem unable to separate legality from morality.
I don't, in fact, separate the public sphere from the private. I think God does see, and I don't think God approves. However, murder is a legal term -- not a moral term.
Life =/= free will. The terms are not interchangeable. If we live, we live in the Lord; if we die, we die in the Lord. Whether we live or die, therefore, we are the Lord's. God isn't a being external to life; God is Being, itself. We can "be" alive. We can "be" dead -- and it's all initiated and carried out by God. We have no will of our own to circumvent death -- or to create life.
you said it right: I do not separate legality from morality, because the state disapproves all that is against morality. That's why people are not allowed to have sex in the streets
It is against morality the concept an Eye for an Eye. Because it's like the state became as barbaric as the murderers, by killing them.
Even mafiosi think that God doesn't see them when they make their shady deals. Because they think "Business is business and God has nothing to do with that".
I suppose that God cares if a government kills murderers.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
God wouldn't care because he hasn't done anything... besides governments need not be forgiven because they're selfless and do everything for the greater good.. like jesus really when he sacrificed himself for the great good.
In fact, for the greater good, a murderer is supposed to be in jail, so they can't hurt anyone
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
No.. putting them in jail is immoral.. the government should just kill them because they're wasting money. ..
well...most murders are related to professional criminality.
The state doesn't care about bringing social justice and preventing the spreading of criminality. If the state forced these people to get an education and then a job, there wouldn't be criminality as a social issue.
But the state doesn't care about intervening in the economy. It's just interested in collecting taxes.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
Because in the war you killed terrorists which is for the greater good. ..
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Is it?
Upright and innocent people were also killed. And lots of money was spent that could have been spent on charity.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
But charity money gets stolen by corporations. .
Also FOR THE GREATER GOOD.. doesn't matter if some innocents are killed if you can get at the terrorists
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Yes. It does matter. If we do it to the least of us, we do it to God.
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
Not really .. greed isn't too unrealistic