If i say am christian..

[Trey of Diamonds]

A few probing questions and five minutes and I would know if I should accept whether you were a Christian or not.

Probe all you wish, judge and condemn all you wish. Those of us who do not live up to other peoples definitions of Christianity care little for the acceptance of them. Some of us are even aware that there is no true definition of a Christian and that it is a personal definition, different for each individual.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

You seems to be double minded.

I understand that it is silly to believe in 'Christians' as actually existing.

"Christian" is just a word which we use to label ourselves and others. I might call you a Christian one day and think of you as an atheist the next day. It's because I realize that Christians don't really exist in any physical way.

It's like 'greedyguy'. There is no such thing as a greedyguy. It's just a personal judgment. I might call you a greedyguy one day and a generousguy the next.

Jesus knows, So.. i'll ask jesus.

Yeah, maybe that's how everyone should have answered your OP -- by ducking it. But some of them seem to have taken your question seriously.

BTW.. are you intrested to know after that ?

I'm sorry but your question doesn't make sense to me. Can you rephrase it?

 

[chinu]

I'm sorry but your question doesn't make sense to me. Can you rephrase it?

Anyways.. leave it.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

Anyways.. leave it.

You refused to answer my question about whether or not you would call me a Christian, so I doubt I'll engage another of your OPs.

 

[chinu]

You refused to answer my question about whether or not you would call me a Christian,

I said i'll ask jesus and tell you.
And jesus said :no:, Now how can i cross the words of jesus.

so I doubt I'll engage another of your OPs.

As you are behaving like this, I think that's why jesus said you are not a christian.

 

[Muffled]

will you be agree ? if yes than its OK , If No, Than why ?

You can say that you believe you are a Christian but saying you are one is proselytizing and against the rules.

However for me personnally you can say it, since I believe it does no harm.

My question for you is whether it is better to have the label or what I believe is distinctive Christianity ie that which makes it different from other beliefs.

Having said that I believe that I don't know you well enough to know whether you exemplify that which I believe represents an accurate discription of Christianity.

 

[Muffled]

I said i'll ask jesus and tell you.
And jesus said :no:, Now how can i cross the words of jesus.

As you are behaving like this, I think that's why jesus said you are not a christian.

I believe that this is actually conceptually Islam (not the religion) ie hearing and obeying God. I believe that is OK since many Christians are Islamic in this way. (I believe that I am sometimes.)

Mat 7:15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.
16 By their fruits ye shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

 

[Muffled]

Probe all you wish, judge and condemn all you wish. Those of us who do not live up to other peoples definitions of Christianity care little for the acceptance of them. Some of us are even aware that there is no true definition of a Christian and that it is a personal definition, different for each individual.

I believe you are saying that you don't care if your beliefs are valid or not. I believe acceptance does not equate to validity but I believe it helps to find validity by examining other people concepts to see how reasonable they are.

I believe this is not a fact but simply your opinion which I believe would be difficult to prove since it is the null hypothesis.

I don't believe this. I believe that the Bible lays out the prescriptions the same for everyone.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

I said i'll ask jesus and tell you.
And jesus said :no:, Now how can i cross the words of jesus.

If you are in direct communication with Jesus, why do you ask for debate with mere humans like us? What can we tell you that you don't already know?

 

[chinu]

If you are in direct communication with Jesus, why do you ask for debate with mere humans like us?

If you think that you are only human, than you are getting something wrong brother, Actually.. my problem is that i can see the jesus/god/love which is residing within you too..
Thus.. while debating with you, i think that am in debate with your mind, saying "Him" (mind), or Your mind; That please be aside let me worship the jesus/love within you.

What can we tell you that you don't already know?

How are you ?

 

[chinu]

My question for you is whether it is better to have the label or what I believe is distinctive Christianity ie that which makes it different from other beliefs.
Having said that I believe that I don't know you well enough to know whether you exemplify that which I believe represents an accurate discription of Christianity.

None of them,
It's not better to just have the label because its an easy way for one non-christian too.
And it's not better to go with.. as what you think is distinctive christianity is because.. as i don't know you well enough, whether you truely know an accurate discriptions of other religions or not.

 

[9Westy9]

You can say that you believe you are a Christian but saying you are one is proselytizing and against the rules.

Where on earth did you get this idea?

 

[SteveGrayFTW]

will you be agree ? if yes than its OK , If No, Than why ?

If you believe that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, then you a Christian. If you don't believe that, then you aren't.

That's pretty much all it comes down to, I think. Not really sure why it needs to be debated.

 

[chinu]

If you believe that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, then you a Christian. If you don't believe that, then you aren't.

Actually my lord and savior, and jesus's lord are same. Now.. what will you say ?

 

[Muffled]

None of them,
It's not better to just have the label because its an easy way for one non-christian too.
And it's not better to go with.. as what you think is distinctive christianity is because.. as i don't know you well enough, whether you truely know an accurate discriptions of other religions or not.

I definitely donot have an accurate knowledge of other religions. I have read the Qu'ran and the Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita but I believe that only gives me a general understanding. I tried reading the Uphanishads but I believe found them to be only the philosophies of men and sometimes in error.

Having said that I believe that even a general understanding would have shown whether those religions provide what is distinct about Christianity but they don't.

I have also read the basic tenets of Buddhism and I believe that does not contain the distinction as well.

 

[Muffled]

Where on earth did you get this idea?

From the last time I was censured by the management telling me that I couldn't state things as facts but only as beliefs.

 

[Muffled]

Actually my lord and savior, and jesus's lord are same. Now.. what will you say ?

I would say that is close but not quite the same. For a long time I believe God was my Lord and Savior. Since I believe that Jesus is God in the flesh one would think it the same but I believe Jesus comes with a promise that just knowing God doesn't have.

 

[chinu]

I would say that is close but not quite the same. For a long time I believe God was my Lord and Savior. Since I believe that Jesus is God in the flesh one would think it the same but I believe Jesus comes with a promise that just knowing God doesn't have.

Jesus was god in flesh that time not now, Now he's in the permanent oneness with his lord.

 

[Muffled]

Jesus was god in flesh that time not now, Now he's in the permanent oneness with his lord.

That is not what I bleieve. I believe He is still in the flesh (a body that doesn't age as believers will receive when He returns) and has finshed building the New Jerusalem in which He resides.

I believe He has always been one as He stated.

 

[chinu]

That is not what I bleieve. I believe He is still in the flesh (a body that doesn't age as believers will receive when He returns)

From where he will return you think ?